Want to wade into the rainbow-ridden surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.
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Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)
Everybody remember Frontiers, the publisher that brought us the rat dck pck? Well guess what…
https://bsky.app/profile/michael-okun.bsky.social/post/3mnxkxte55s25
A predatory slop publisher has turned to algorithmic moderation by clankers? A shocking turn of events, to be sure. They’re probably just trying to wring the last few pennies out of their operation before they meet their inevitable oblivion.
I wanted to give you a high five for telling APS where to go. That was rad as hell.
Link for that development, in case anyone missed it:
https://awful.systems/post/8263538/11477939
I did, indeed, turn them down, and I told the journal why.
Sigh.
ACM will no longer require disclosure of the use of #generativeAI in writing papers… an absolutely terrible change by the @ACM Publications Board to the Policy on Authorship. Yes, this will give ACM more papers. No, the ideology of “number go up” productivism is not the path to responsible, ecological or ethical computing, but to irrelevance.
I signed up for ACM last year, just hit my expiry (like, today), and truly don’t know if I want to renew
it’s been an extreme avenue of generative hype, constantly pushing talks, books, etc. I have no idea how they square it with the ethical pledge
By not thinking about it, one presumes.
I was flipping through this month’s magazine on the bus, don’t worry, they have a solution for reviewers…
https://cacm.acm.org/research/from-volunteerism-to-duty-reforming-peer-review-with-tokens/
:(
To prevent fraud and rule exchanges, tokens can be implemented as a digital entity, representing a fungible unit of value. Tokens can be transferred through cryptographic protocols and governed by rules running in the TMS.
They’re gonna do it. Peer review is going ON THE BLOCKCHAIN
Anything to avoid paying people for their time.
Old: AI Winter
Bold: AI Ragnarok
Botterdamerung
Noice
AI Winter but with the same connotations as a nuclear one
We have already all died and been uploaded, but it happend so seamlessly nobody noticed.
Of course! That “AI Black Death in 2 years” this channel also predicted must’ve happened while we all slept and the AI uploaded us all so it could torture everyone who didn’t contribute to its development!
UK government wants to mandate client-side scanning to stop nonces. You won’t be able to take or share nudes with hardware you own unless you submit to some dodgy third party identity check service first.
Unfortunately clippy the magic nonce detector does not exist. All this does is give our next Prime Minister (probably that froggy Farage bloke) totalitarian overreach
There seems to be a misunderstanding in that thread, not that the actual proposal is much better. Clippy isn’t expected to determine the age of the subject of an image, just whether the image contains nudity at all (in practice, usually how much bare white skin is in the image). Then, before your device allows you to take a nude photo of any kind, accept a text from your partner, or view a Renaissance painting online, it has to verify that you have a government-issued cybersex license to turn the filter off. For the children, of course.
Judging by the current state of NSFW filter neural networks, I expect a surge in the popularity of novelty color filters for smartphone cameras, racialized porn categories, and maybe furry art.
Finally, a machine which makes it impossible to watch the movie batman and robin.
(Joke explainer: the batsuit had nipples).
Are you worried about AI taking over the world and killing everyone? Fear not, the people who can stop it are collecting hats. Surely everything is under control.
Oddly this reminds me of a weird thing. (Not trying to attack you or others here btw, for reasons that I will make clear in the end). When I was active in student activism, I recalled how annoyed our leaders of the group were that a small but vocal (and inactive) part of the organisations membership didnt allow the leaders to be people.
When they (after already working crazy hours btw, these people were committed), spend some time in the evening to wind down and make some sort of joke(*), the inactive members alway would start to send angry emails. 'how dare you make an internal joke while students have less rights/the uni isnt eco friendly/etc". I though back on how that impulse from inside to org was indeed quite weird. Esp as the people complaining didnt seem to be that active members. (If they were they would know how much work was being done and the strain people were under and how the jokes were good for morale).
Something to take into account if you see lesswrong people react negatively to the hat post.
Of course none of this applies tonus as outsiders who do not take them that seriously at all. It is a weird thing to make a long post about indeed, esp with one of the hats being one of yuds it seems? Im wondering if this lesswrong thing is perhaps more of a personality cult that anything serious. A well at least nobody is using the org as a dating hunting ground, that would be bad.
*: basically they would spend their whole day prepping for meetings with the uni/other orgs, sending out emails trying to get the members to help out, doing research and summarizing that for the members etc etc, and at the end of the day they send one internal email about talk like a pirate day, and the next morning they get 21 replies to their work, 20 of those people being mad about the talk like a pirate email.
I haven’t experienced the situation you’re describing myself, but it feels very plausible.
Similarly, all developed societies depend on a number of people selflessly working in positions of elected or non-elected authority (local councils, HOAs, school boards) and treating them like people who cannot afford to make any mistakes is not a recipe for increased democratic engagement.
Anyway, so far no-one has commented, negatively or otherwise, and I think most LWers are treating it as harmless fun.
It’s not making me any more interested in coming more than 200 feet from any of these people, and neither is this https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/GtZKzWgAqWrE2tXrQ/contra-dance-at-lessonline, but maybe that’s just me being mean.
that’s just me being mean.
It prob is, stuff like this seems to be quite common at various nerdy events. Just harmless fun(*). So a bitch eating crackers moment perhaps. I know I have those myself.
*: initially made a typo there and wrote ‘hatless fun’.
Isn’t that the hat from the picture that Yudkowsky showed off to prove he wasn’t a cult leader? Are they trying to beat the cult allegations by ha ha jokingly wearing the same silly clothes as their founder?
You would expect the leader of the ‘make sure the prompt doesnt turn us into paperclips’ movement to better right.
Olay but this is good though. This is the kind of autism Lesswrong should focus more on. No bullshit, just the facts.
owning us with hats and logic
Please snjoy this comment saying “Nate Silver is a major proponent of AI assisted writing” like that’s a good thing, and the reply that argues against slop from the weird premise that enjoying one’s own writing process is bad.
weird, for people who write so many superfluous words i guessed that they at least like it
Gwern apparently hates slop for text but loves it for pictures.
i mean the process of writing, if they didn’t they would perhaps write in more concise way
AI slop will absolutely kill any forum in which it proliferates. So I’m totally fine with it proliferating on LW.
This all reads as a very elitist and privileged perspective.
Dude look where you’re commenting
I trust Nate Silver’s writing advice exactly as much as I trust his recommendations for hair-care products
Remember Crazy Taxi? Its back, infected with AI slop!
(I saw the massive wave of hype that game’s announcement unleashed, and its almost impressive how Sega wiped out every last bit of it with AI.)
Crazy taxi? In this house we remember Quarantine
Coworker got fired because he used AI to plan for a site installment of our product. The AI made a very nice looking plan but it failed to include enough packing material so nearly half of the units arrived broken. Boss still thinks AI is going to revolutionize work for the better though.
to be fair, the plan would have worked if you had included the allotted number of goblins in the box in addition to the packing material.
Came across this today: the purpose of a system is what it does. Based on that I would say the purpose of Claude was to make mistakes and get my coworker fired.
What if we replaced the kid in the Omelas hole with the wealthiest guy in Omelas?
I approve of this
Molly White continuing to slam it out of the park with a pivot to AI. As always, worth a read in full, but this intro bit stuck out to me after reading lots of inane blather on how crypto and AI are different:
Continuing to track only crypto would mean missing half the story. The same operatives are running both campaigns. Josh Vlasto, longtime adviser and spokesperson for Fairshake — the cryptocurrency super PAC network responsible for the bulk of crypto’s 2024 spending — is now simultaneously heading Leading the Future, a pro-AI super PAC network. Chris Lehane, the political consultant and Coinbase board member who helped establish Fairshake and famously told Coinbase employees who questioned whether a crypto voter bloc existed that they would simply invent one, is now also an OpenAI executive and one of the people behind the Leading the Future PAC network. The same venture capital firms are funding both: Andreessen Horowitz, a crypto heavyweight in the 2024 elections, is now splitting its political spending across crypto and AI PACs.
Good timing since it seems even Crypto folks are getting out of Crypto.
Literally the only pivot to AI that I am happy about. Molly is GOAT
3 weeks after the “as soon as Friday” news, OpenAI has followed Anthropic and confidentiality filed their draft S-1. But they sure don’t sound confident about it. Whole post in full (sans legal fine print):
We recently submitted a confidential S-1. We expect it to leak so we’re just announcing it. We have not decided on timing yet; it may be a while because there are things we want to do that are likely easier as a private company. But it’s a complicated set of tradeoffs and this gives us the option to go public sooner if that ends up being best.
May, likely, if… Those are some weight-bearing subjunctive clauses.
Edit: also Altman’s eyeball tracker company is doing layoffs now
Wait why would they expect it to leak? (assuming that mentioning it isn’t just some marketing stunt, which it probably is)
Draft filings involve feedback from the SEC, so I think they may be throwing shade on government employees, whom they can’t fire or control directly.
But I’m also thinking they may be salty about the aforementioned “as soon as Friday” articles, and then Anthropic beating them to filing.
Hard to tell how much of it is what, they’re toxic inside and out.
IANAL, but my understanding is that companies are allowed to keep confidential the fact that they even filed the S-1. That’s how I read OpenAI’s statement. But it’s not completely clear what “it” means in “we expect it to leak”.
Ed Zitron might have got hold of it, if his bsky is anything to go by.
We could be feasting soon!
They asked a chatbot and the chatbot is trained on shadowrun and cyberpunk2077 sourcebooks.
Don’t they have their CFO not even reporting directly to be CEO? I would bet that there’s a ton of internal dissent about timing and strategy of how to cash out.
That CFO thing was definitely the case, at least a few months ago. I’m sure you’re right about the internal chaos, even if that CFO drama has changed, and it would align with how non-committal this announcement is.
I would love to be a fly on that wall.
I’d been betting on one of the promptfarmer companies being the ones to set off the bubble-popping chain reaction, but looks like musk is so desperate for cash that his coterie of grifts are speedrunning for the underdog position
I guess a certain country is using LLMs to try to engage people 1:1 to change their opinions of said country.

Could be a LLM, could be a call-center worker in Kenya or Mumbai or Manilla. Its an old move.
Good point. Now I imagine someone trying to pass the turing test by having their bot pretend to be a sales person.
Is AI profitable yet? a website that tracks the spending and revenue of leading AI companies. The answer is so helpfully provided at the top of the page
It’s also fun to sort by pnl and see just how far the gap is for others that aren’t nvidia
Anthropic insists that you should use their demon-as-a-service. Hackernews debates the finer points of pentangle construction.
Babe wake up, new model that’s too dangerous for public consumption but not really just dropped.
lol
Time is a dumb circle
I’ve also seen mention of “Fable” and I’ve been too sick to go check up on whatever the fuck that is
Mythos with extra safety dust sprinkled on top and they listened to The Safety Dance while writing the system prompt. Also a hand painted sign on the front that says “no chinese were serius”
Hope you get to feeling better fast!
and they listened to The Safety Dance
not sure they’re cool enough even to do that
Hope you get to feeling better fast!
ty! rest is helping, but why are sinuses
remarkably educational, nice
It’s pretty good! The kids want to be influenza for dragoncon lol
It’s on netflix in the states
okay damn you o7 I checked
Claude Fable 5 introduces our 5th model generation for your most ambitious work. Tackle days-long, complex, and asynchronous tasks previous models couldn’t sustain.
folks, can I get a “please god pay us for even more tokens” for 500?
after calling the con about a super hacker AI the “mythos”, now they’re calling the next spiel “fable”? are they like, just taking the piss at this point?
Claude v6.0, “Tall Tale”
Claude v6.1 “Big Fish Story”
just taking the piss at this point?
always-have-been.jpg
They want to invent the AI Named For Untruth from the hit Star Trek: The Next Generation episode “Do Not Invent the AI Named for Untruth”.
Let’s all just agree that it’s a beloved RPG game by Lionhead Studios and we’ll leave it at that
On a related note Mythos has been released and as pointed out, the original “GPT-2 is too dangerous to be released” post was written by Dario Amodei, Daniela Amodei and Jack Clark, who are all Anthropic’s founders. Same ploy, different model
Today we’re launching Claude Fable 5: a Mythos-class model that we’ve made safe for general use.
oh fuck off. going full SCP in their press releases now. insufferable.









