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The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)
The AI-as-excuse layoffs have come for Meta:
fig. 1: @self hard at work keeping awful systems up and running
from Unix World 1985. enterprise computing was so much more fun in those days
Hey, we hailed our @self!
Thank you @self, love your haircut
if you use Rust enough it just grows like that
Man, if only I had enough optimism left to aspire to that level of silliness, as opposed to be sliding further and further in to the maw of computer stupidity.
A new conspiracy theory that I made up just now:
Transformer-based LLMs are a North Korean op to destroy the West’s ability to generate 10x rockstar coders. Within two years America will be rendered helpless.
We’re getting codemogged by the Juche Machines. They have played us for absolute fools!
Can not be rid of this rancid sub-class of plutocrats quickly enough. “Gen ⍺ hanging the last squillionaire-tech-bro by the entrails of the last kleptocrat” should be this millenium’s Diderotian coda on their existence.
Palmer Lucky Wants YOU 🫵 To Die For His Waifus
Bonus Sneer from Adam Johnson
PL talks about the way Trump fights wars as if it comes out of some military doctrine. It doesn’t. Trump is stupid, doesn’t plan ahead, and is easily distracted. That’s it. It’s not N-dimensional chess. He’s just an idiot.
isn’t Luckey the dude mostly known for awkwardly and overweightly jumping wearing a VR headset on the cover of Time or something
Oh don’t worry, bespoke GLP-1s plus his “nootropic stack” have surely helped him out immensely by now
I also appreciated this followup
supremely rational gamblers want to rewrite reality by threatening a journalist, because reporting got in the way of them getting money from polymarket. all while completely unaware that they’re giving him better story than the actual missile impact thing https://www.timesofisrael.com/gamblers-trying-to-win-a-bet-on-polymarket-are-vowing-to-kill-me-if-i-dont-rewrite-an-iran-missile-story/ also https://awful.systems/post/7617781
Polymarket when faced with the oracle problem: “What if we threaten to shoot the oracle?”
the rationalist counterpart to rubber hose cryptanalysis
“So I put an accumulator on Gaelic Warrior to win the Gold Cup, Arsenal to beat Leverkusen in the Champions League, and all-out nuclear conflict by the end of March”
5 Tools You Can Vibe Code For Your Business In Under An Hour exactly the sort of slop from someone with a hard-on for AI, no understanding of the risks of vibe coding core parts of your business’ infrastructure and guest writes for Forbes would produce.
Starts with a sickening intro that leans into “pilled” to be “down with the kids”
If you haven’t joined the Claudepilled crowd, open an account and play.
Bright ideas include “copy and paste the source code from your home page into Claude” but overlooks the how to actually get those changes deployed part.
Wanna see my cool website. It’s at
http://localhost:1234/take that web developers!Then she describes building a custom internal dashboard…
Open Claude Code and describe your business. List every software tool you use. Ask it to suggest the key metrics you’d want to see from each one. Go back and forth until the list feels right. Then give it your brand guidelines and ask it to build a dashboard that displays everything. Ask for it to be password protected.
Yes that sounds like a great idea and not a car crash waiting to happen
She also describes building a customer facing onboarding site
Build a custom client-facing dashboard instead. Tell Claude Code what your onboarding process looks like step by step. Describe what information you need to collect and what your clients need to access. Ask it to build a secure portal they can log into, with automations that send them what they need and follow up to collect what you need. This is a branded, professional experience that scales without you. The emotional design matters here too: you want clients to feel held, not herded. Tell Claude that.
Yes vibe coded customer facing tools are a fantastic idea and definitely not a vector for cyber attacks nuh-uh. I’m sure it will be fine if you ask for it to be “secure” right?
FML are we in the twilight zone here?
The software industry is experiencing a huge collective AI psychosis.
Ask for it to be password protected.
I think I’m having a stroke. Or at least I hope I’m having a stroke and that this unparodiably dumb piece isn’t any more real than it sounds.
guest writes for Forbes would produce.
I seriously think we can completely dismiss Forbes as a credible source at this point, even if it’s not something coming from, ahem, “contributors”
The Founder of Anthropic Says He Wants to Protect Humanity From AI. Just Don’t Ask How. another long article about the AI craze and in particular Anthropic. A snippet that stood out to me:
"Reviewing my interview transcripts one night, I discover I’d left my recorder running when I excused myself to use the bathroom at Anthropic. On the tape, Kyle Fish, the AI researcher, and Danielle Ghiglieri, my tattooed guide, are laughing about some visitors to their headquarters the day before, what sounds like a documentary or TV crew.
“I sit right next to Trenton,” Fish says. “I went back and told him, ‘Dude, you really did something to those guys with your sunscreen stuff yesterday.’ He thought it was hilarious.”
They’re both cracking up.
Ghiglieri says Fish, too, had convincingly come off as a “different species of human,” adding: “They were very enamored with you.”
They’re inclined to cooperate with whatever project these people proposed, she says, and make everybody a star. I hadn’t heard Trenton’s sunscreen spiel yet. Only later, over lunch, would he tell me that he stopped protecting himself against skin cancer because AI was going to end the world in five years.
I’m more concerned that the writer could listen to this, presumably multiple times on his tape, and still wrote the rest of the piece like these guys are acting in good faith. Regardless of the unanswerable question of whether they believe their own hype, they are clearly saying things for a purpose of self-enrichment and self-aggrandizement rather than out of any concern for other people, and that is where the story should be. Even the guys most ostensibly interested in protecting humanity are still, when they think the mic is off and the journalist is out of the room, joking about how they’re manipulating the press into saying what they want.
I think it’s a specific genre of reportage where you objectively[1] report what you observe and let the reader draw their own conclusions.
[1] problematic term, engage!
Reading the article again, that definitely feels like the angle the author was going for
I will confess that my initial reaction was from a partial reading since I got derailed ranting about the silicon valley attitude towards neurodivergence and how much damage it’s doing to us, and basically right after that bit it starts taking a much more (appropriately imo) cynical tone that was honestly refreshing.
Let this be a lesson to those of us who must learn, I guess.
I mean there is a lot of crazy bullshit in there so I don’t blame anyone for getting derailed
A LWer is super-impressed by the time travel fantasy Illumine Lingao (an example of Chuanyue)
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/YiRsCfkJ2ERGpRpen/leogao-s-shortform?commentId=J4YGrY26Ezt5oMsot
Listen to this pitch:
the vast majority of the book is devoted to discussing every single technical aspect in excruciating well-researched detail. you don’t simply have a paragraph about them deciding to buy guns, you get an entire chapter of different gun experts arguing back and forth about exactly which gun to buy based on maintainability, range, differences between civilian and military models, semi automatic vs fully automatic.
Apparently they’re quite unaware of the extensive number of works in Russian with similar themes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accidental_travel#In_Russian_fiction
followup, here’s a real substack interview with one of the originators of the collab novel
https://afraw.substack.com/p/first-dig-the-latrines
to be honest sounds like semi-fascist shit to me.
Look, I’ve read some long-ass web novels. I enjoyed Worm, A Practical Guide to Evil, and Katalepsis all start to finish. I have also spent more hours than I could count (even if I did care to) perusing excessively detailed fan wikis and reading interninal debates between nerds about minutia. I have done all of this and enjoyed myself greatly.
But the way they’re describing this sounds absolutely exhausting and incredibly dull. If this isn’t the result of some kind of collaborative project where the debates are between different actual people then it sounds like you’re just dumping your worldbuilding notes into the page and throwing a “he said” every so often.
My heart goes out to my fleeting online acquaintance who’s seemingly but reliably two years too late to hype a trend. 2024 it was blockchain/cryptocurrencies that he tried pushing, now he’s saying AI technology companies are here to stay.
Somebody’s gotta buy the reverse reverse Cramer index I guess.
And here I thought “people being easy to replace with a small shell script” was a joke…
New AI legal filing sanctions just dropped: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca6.152857/gov.uscourts.ca6.152857.50.2.pdf
I don’t have time to read over it completely yet, but here’s a taste:
That briefing repeatedly misrepresented the record, cited non-existent cases, and cited cases for propositions of law that they did not even discuss, much less support. As explained below, Irion’s and Egli’s misconduct warrants the sanctions laid out in Section II.C.
If we included typos and other errors that are arguably, but not clearly, a misrepresentation or fake citation, we would be looking at far more misstatements of fact and law
Irion and Egli did not respond to these directives. Instead, they said the show cause order was “void on its face for failing to include a signature of an Article III judge,” was “motivated by harassment of the Respondent attorneys,” and “reflect[ed] illegal ex-parte [sic] communications within this Court.”
Although citing fake cases violates Federal Rule of Appellate Procedure 38, Rule 38 alone is not “up to the task” of sanctioning this conduct, Chambers, 501 U.S. at 50, because Rule 38 allows only for the imposition of costs and attorneys’ fees, Sanctions § 33. But we think other sanctions are also appropriate, so we employ our inherent authority
Not a lawyer, just a bit of a law nerd, by this is a big deal, especially the fact that courts have been repeatedly using their inherent authority sanction on people who fuck this up. Courts do not routinely invoke their inherent authority like this. Also this footnote is interesting:
Ghostwriting is when one person writes the document while another person takes credit for it without acknowledging the true author’s identity. See The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language 741 (4th ed. 2000). Legal authorities generally discuss ghostwriting for a pro se litigant, see, e.g., Duran v. Carris, 238 F.3d 1268, 1272 (10th Cir. 2001), but we see no reason why rules regulating ghostwriting should apply in only the pro se context. The primary concern with ghostwriting is that the true author would escape liability for his conduct, see In re Mungo, 305 B.R. 762, 768 (Bankr. D.S.C. 2003); Ellis v. Maine, 448 F.2d 1325, 1328 (1st Cir. 1971), and that concern is just as acute when a lawyer ultimately signs the ghostwritten pleading.
It sounds like they’re looking for an angle to hold the LLM operators (OpenAI/Anthropic - or at least whatever company wraps the models in the necessary bits and bobs to make it a product they can sell to stupid asshole lawyers) as ultimately accountable for these filings, just as if they were a SovCit guru providing materials for one of their griftees to submit to the court without ever actually putting their name to the record where the might face consequences. I’d need to do some research to speculate on what that might mean, but it should give everyone operating in this space pause.
I’m still reading the appendix that goes into the specific hallucinations but it sounds like they’re pretty absurd based on the tone of this order.
• On pages 17 and 19, Whiting cites “T.C.A. § 29-12-119,” but we cannot find a section 29-12-119 in the Tennessee Code Annotated
lol. lmao.
On page 4, Whiting states “it is well settled that the First Amendment does not protect speech that knowingly asserts false statements of fact. United States v. Alverez, 567 U.S. 709, 721 (2012).” Alvarez states the opposite: “This opinion . . . rejects the notion that false speech should be in a general category that is presumptively unprotected.” Id. at 721–22 (plurality opinion).
Oh. Oh no.
• On page 1, Whiting states, “This Court has made clear that , [sic] ‘[T]he mere fact that a plaintiff did not prevail does not mean that the claim was frivolous.’ Adcock-Ladd v. Secretary of the Treasury, 227 F.3d 343, 350 (6th Cir. 2000).” Adcock-Ladd does not contain the quoted language, and it is not about frivolous cases.
This specific confabulation appears at least 5 times. I’m not sure if Whiting was copy/pasting from something ChatGPT spat out or if ChatGPT was at least consistently inventing the same bullshit.
Looking for a bit of context I found this local news piece and it certainly reads like the guy is a crank who kick-started this whole thing by trying to protest the crime of public safety during a global pandemic.
I’m pretty sure the 2 people cosplaying as lawyers are just as bugshit as he is.
edit yeah they’re SovCits
Finally, our orders are not invalid simply because the clerk signed them. We have already told Irion and Egli that our orders are not void when the clerk signs them in this very case. Whiting v. City of Athens, No. 24-5886, 2025 U.S. App. LEXIS 13507, at *1 (6th Cir. June 2, 2025). And the Supreme Court has twice denied petitions for mandamus from Irion and Egli demanding that the clerk stop signing our orders.
(italics in original, bold my emphasis)
God, I love when people think “because I said so” is adequate back up of their BS.
“Judges love this one weird trick!”
AI seems good at purple prose and metaphors that don’t exactly make sense. No, I do not give a fuck about the “triangle of calm” when it comes to, of all things, the narrator taking off her shoes. No, I am not interested in how long the narrator sets the timer on the microwave when she makes literally the blandest meal of all time.
Now I’m sure the techbros truly think this is good “literary” writing. After all, they only care that the writing sounds flowery, because they seem to be very good at missing the actual meaning of everything. I remember Saltman saying that the movie Oppenheimer needed to be more optimistic to inspire more kids to become physicists (while also saying that The Social Network did that for startup founders).
All I could think about is who has a microwave that beeps while it’s still cooking?
maybe it’s carbon monoxide detector going off, it would make more sense
I had the thought, that maybe the author could be intentionally trying to be mind-numbingly boring, but that just killed it. Into the slop jail!
I mean maybe it’s poorly worded and there’s only one set of beeps at the end. But then why would the protagonist be reminded multiple times?
Unless she’s remembering all the times in the past that microwaving bland chicken reminded her of the world being orderly?
But now I think I’m thinking too deeply about microwaves.
Mine does if I use the defrost setting. I assume it wants me to rearrange the contents, but when it beeps the contents are still one solid chunk of ice. It doesn’t make sense, especially for a device that claims to have a “smart” sensor.
It’s a bit like the excerpt. It feels like someone is trying to rewrite the American Psycho routine, but it hammers the obsessive compulsive tropes with all the subtlety of a brick to the face while simultaneously lacking an overall purpose. It’s just noise.
In other news, Cade Metz’ latest piece is actually pretty critical, especially by NYT standards, but you wouldn’t know it from the headline.
“A.I. Agents: They’re Fun. They’re Useful. But Don’t Give Them the Credit Card.”
An Aella-curious blogger in SoCal has noticed something:
But what I find more interesting than broadly “weird sex” is the specific interest in BDSM, kink and particularly full-contact CNC; a relatively common fantasy in individuals, but one I’ve never seen such widespread community interest in outside the Bay Area.
Kink and power-play are practices of manufactured risk, with CNC clocking at a more intense point on the same spectrum. The idea that many of these people are devoting their 9-5s and beyond to eliminating the ultimate consequence (death), only to go home and collectively play-pretend violence (scaffolded with extensive rules and consent forms) is fascinating, and- to me- makes complete sense.
The rationalist interest in manufacturing risk is the direct byproduct of their commitment to flushing it out.
The blogger attended Aella’s SlutCon. I don’t know if she knows that many of our friends have problems with consent as most of us understand it (their understanding is more “if they are old enough to sign the contract, and they sign, that is on them”).
[Effective Altruism] was originally applied to initiatives like raising money for mosquito netting, but now includes figures like Johnson, who has reframed his blood experiments as a product of his own generosity, set to cure humanity of its greatest ill: death itself.
People keep saying this, so it’s good to have a reminder that the weirdos (derogatory) were there all along.
Gleiberman’s paper on the longtermist foundations of the Effective Altruism movement is great!
I read a post by someone leaving LessWrong-the-site who said that from now on he would only donate to Aubrey de Grey because obviously we are so close to curing aging. Found it http://lesswrong.com/lw/m81/leaving_lesswrong_for_a_more_rational_life/
I think that after it is all said and done and after all the money Bryan Johnson spends to live forever, I think the end result will be: exercise, good diet, no alcohol, no tobacco, no drugs. He will still be pushing his product, but the basic advice will be what we already know.
The end result is that he will die, just like every other human being ever.
But along the way, he found a way to take estrogen wrong
@dgerard hey, I saw your bsky post and had an idea. Have you weighed in on Nscale and the UK’s sovereign scafolding reserve? I hope that it gets noticed by the wider public, because that shit is 10/10 hilarious.
It gets better! According to Trashfuture, Nscale never even bothered to buy the scaffolding yard, which is still in operation.
https://trashfuturepodcast.podbean.com/e/unlocked-scaffold-to-heaven/
Don’t knock scaffolding, at least it has everyday uses.
right here! https://awful.systems/post/7557155
Magnificent
Apologies for missing it first time around!
