• TheFrirish@tarte.nuage-libre.fr
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    Unfortunately it’s him vs the far right in the next election and the RN is 10x more intertwined and in bed with Russia than LFI. I know who I am voting for next election. But I will make myself heard and keep sending support to Ukraine.

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    Seems like in France the far right/left are both on Putin’s paycheck. What a piece of shit.

    This will be very bad for Ukraine, when France has their selections next year. Hopefully until next year, something changes that prevents any of those parties to take power.

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      Anywhere in the west. Russia sponsored both the far left and the far right with the goal to destabilise countries and split societies.

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      I’m not terribly familiar with French politics. France does have other significant left wing parties, but they (presently) hold fewer seats and are less hard left.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_France

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France)

      The Socialist Party (French: Parti socialiste [paʁti sɔsjalist], PS[a]) is a centre-left[2][3][4] to left-wing[5][6][7][8] political party in France. It holds social democratic[9] and pro-European views.[10][11] The PS was for decades the largest party of the “French Left” and used to be one of the two major political parties under the Fifth Republic, along with the Rally for the Republic in the late 20th century, and with the Union for a Popular Movement in the early 2000s. It is currently led by First Secretary Olivier Faure. The PS is a member of the Party of European Socialists, Progressive Alliance and Socialist International.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ecologists

      The Ecologists – Europe Ecology The Greens (French: Les Écologistes – Europe Écologie Les Verts), commonly known as The Ecologists (French: Les Écologistes, ) and formerly as **Europe Ecology The Greens[**2] (French: Europe Écologie Les Verts [øʁɔp ekɔlɔʒi le vɛʁ], EELV [ə ɛl ve]) until 2023, is a centre-left[3][4] to left-wing[5][6] green[7] political party in France. The party is a member of the European Green Party.[8] It was formed on 13 November 2010 from the merger of The Greens and Europe Ecology.[9]

      • GarbadgeGoober@feddit.org
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        Same for me, but some of my French friends explained it to me in the last presidential election.

        One problem is they can have two rounds. If no one candidate achieves 50% of the vote, there will be a second one in which you most likely then have to decide between far left and far right. So I guess a lot of moderate would not go to vote in a second round.

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      This will be very bad for Ukraine, , when France has their selections next year.

      For ukraine, for europe and eventually for france. Only him and his masters will win.

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      yeah, it is sickening and sad at the same time. I guess he would be on the side of Germany in WW2?

      im “far left” and think NATO and associated nations (Australia, Canada, Mew Zealand) should put boots on the ground in Ukraine, along the Belarusian border to free up Ukrainian troops for the front and aircraft in the skies.

      Fuck Russia and fuck this guy

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        A lot of communists around the world was against engaging in war with Germany… up until Germany invaded Russia.

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          I mean, you can be auth-left. Reasonable to plot things in multiple dimensions.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum

          Several political scientists have noted that a single left–right axis is too simplistic and insufficient for describing the existing variation in political beliefs and include other axes to compensate for this problem.[1][9] Although the descriptive words at polar opposites may vary, the axes of popular biaxial spectra are usually split between economic issues (on a left–right dimension) and socio-cultural issues (on an authority–liberty dimension).[1][10]

          1000009509

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    With Melanchon being a tankie and Le Pen a fascist, Macron’s brand of right-leaning centrism unfortunately benefits.

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        That’s why I said ‘Macron’s brand’ versus just ‘Macron’; it’s highly unlikely that his replacement would make a sudden veer to the left.

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          I’m confused why LePen’s party hasn’t taken a hit for engaging in a supply and confidence agreement with Macron’s party.

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            Because the agreement gave some concessions and not being in full power is in their minds a momentary set back

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                Probably not. The French left, right, and Macronist Center Right clearly have an evenish split with none of the three blocks big on giving one another a majority. So power is going to be who gets the plurality

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                  I do not understand how the second round voting system works. Quebec has first-past-the-post 🤢

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      I dunno. He’s had something of a history. If you figure that a Mélenchon voter is aware of that already…

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Luc_Mélenchon

      Accusations of support for Russia

      Some commentators claimed Mélenchon “supported Russia” and was sympathetic towards Vladimir Putin.[178][216] Notably, the journalist Nicolas Hénin said that Mélenchon is “on the left of the political spectrum, but is an advocate for the Kremlin leader”, with Hénin quoting how Mélenchon is the “political victim number one” after the murder of the Russian opposition leader Boris Nemtsov.[217] Cécile Vaissié, author of The Kremlin Networks, considers Mélenchon as “one of those that approve of Putin”,[218] and Yannick Jadot of EELV said that the “pro-Russia” stance is “contrary to any environment thinking”.[219]

      Jean-Luc Mélenchon has been regularly described by political critics as friendly to Russia, an accusation he denies. According to French public radio channel France Inter, his position has varied, from dowplaying the threat in 2014 to outright condemnation after the 2022 invasion of Ukraine[220].

      In 2015, opposition leader Boris Nemtsov, an outspoken critic of Vladimir Putin, was killed next to the Kremlin.[221][222] In response, the EU Parliament voted a motion denouncing the human rights situation in Russia. Mélenchon was one of the only members of the European Parliament to vote against the motion[223]. He called it propaganda.[223]

      In January 2022, a few weeks before the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, he told Le Monde:

      “The Russians are moving troops toward their borders? Who would not do the same thing with such a neighbor?” [224]

      As soon as the invasion of Ukraine happened, Jean-Luc Mélenchon condemned it as an unlawful act of aggression on behalf of Russia. This criticism was criticised as opportunistic by Mélenchon’s opponents.[220]

      A few days after the invasion began, Jean-Luc Mélenchon said France should not provide any military aid to Ukraine.[225] He later changed his mind and endorsed providing military aid, justifying it by Ukraine’s right to defend itself.[166] This change of policy was criticised by Mélenchon’s opponents.

      In October 2022, the French Parliament introduced a motion denouncing Russia’s war against Ukraine. Most French political parties supported the motion.[226] Two exceptions were the Rassemblement National (far-right) and Mélenchon’s France Insoumise. They both abstained[227].

      In 2023, Mélenchon was invited on France 5. He said: “We should focus on ourselves. Why should we care about the centuries-old quarrels of the Latvians or Estonians with Russia? Why should we ensure Ukraine’s physical borders?”.[citation needed][225]

      In May 2025, Sophia Chikirou, a French deputy member of Mélenchon’s party, attended a rally celebrating the Allied victory over Nazism. Several media outlets accused this event of being pro-Russian. [228][229]

      In August 2025, Jean-Luc Mélenchon created controversy after calling Volodymyr Zelensky an illegitimate leader due to the delay of the planned Ukrainian 2024 presidential election in the context of the war. At the same time he was criticised for arguing Vladimir Putin was only a threat to Ukraine and should not be considered a threat for Western Europe.[230][231]