• Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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    You know that’s the least credible source and literally, as biased as you can get. A self proclaimed “Socialist newspaper”.

    How did we go from “don’t believe everything you see on the Internet” to “i’m gonna believe this is true because it says so on this website!”?

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      Eh, a cursory glance at their proposed policies is more than enough to convince me they’re fascist. Ethnic purity, ending welfare, rejecting non-classical art, rejecting international alliances, and for some reason making all kids eat red meat daily.

      All of those things are either directly fascist or closely associated with modern fascist culture wars.

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        That’s entirely possible. I don’t agree with everything he says, and I’ve since learned from reliable sources of various disgusting comments made by him in person. But I’m still not going to use “Flamman” as a reliable source. They are not a reliable publication. And they are not taken seriously in Sweden.

        It would be a bit like taking what “FOX News” says about US Democrats as a reliable source of unbiased information.

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          Fox News May be known for their opinion segments, but their journalism team is actually competent, and their polling teams are some of the best around.

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            You’re arguing with a troll, he’s not out after facts, just to push his fascist views by trying to muddy the waters.

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            I’m sure they are. But you would look for other sources to confirm or deny. Because you know they are known to be biased.

            “Flamman” however is closer to Alex Jones Info Wars than FOX News. Minus the peddeling of protein shakes or whatever it was

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              Yeah that’s what I did. I looked up the OP policies, and rapidly identified them as almost certainly fascist. Which was the original question. Not the source credibility.

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      Remigration is ethnic cleansing, basically going further than what Trump and ICE is doing in the USA right now. You don’t need to know more about them.

      The other side of this is that Sweden is now 8.1% Muslim. It’s inevitable that people get fed up with this. No matter if it’s right or wrong, people hate it. Especially when the economic outlook is grim.

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        That is a very strong statement. What’s your source of them wanting to achieve an ethnic cleansing with forced deportation of Swedish citizens? Taking steps that go beyond Trumps ICE.

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      I trust socialists way more than I trust capitalists. Socialists want to liberate the world, capitalists want to enslave it.

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        You do you. But I wouldn’t trust anyone on the sole basis that they claim they subscribe to a specific ideology. That has to be the dumbest shit I’ve heard today.

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        He confirmed it. Mullvad has literally nothing to do with it. It’s a private donation.

        The point is. You’re listening to hardline socialists pointing at a party they disagree with screaming “facism!” And go like “oh… well, if they say so it must be the case”

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            How about you read what you link…

            in the very link you send me, they confirm, that it’s Daniel, as a private individual that have donated. NOT them as a company.

            So please, clarify to me what I’m wrong about

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              I like how you have this one specific point about rejecting a logical fallacy but everyone is like no they suck and you’re like yeah they suck but these specific facts and then people are down voting you like you’re supporting fascists.

              It’s such the human condition of like if you’re not with us you’re against us

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                I migrated here from Reddit expecting a bit better open debate or opinion. nope same tribal fueled outrage bullshit with zero critical thinking.

                when did the internet become you either agree with me or you’re fascist/nazi or on “on the fence enabler” its really pathetic

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                Everyone are just experts on this one irrelevant local swedish party that 97% of swedes have never even heard of.

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                  Yeah, but tbf half a million is a pretty significant war chest, I bet people do start hearing about them soon

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                    This is just the streisand effect at full display. It’s election year. And the first time i hear about this party is not from political ads on the street, Tv, radio, debates.

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              Bro are you fucking illiterate? You said the source is weak and I said Mullvad literally confirmed it happened. I didn’t say Mullvad donated anything you fucking dumb fuck. Jesus Christ.

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                No but you are. I said it was a private donation. You go “wrong! Mullvad themselves confirmed it!”

                I just adore how everyone here are experts about this one irrelevant local Swedish party that 97% of swedes had never even heard of until recently.

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              I’m convinced you’re a fed or a troll. No one is this dense. You made a claim, got proven wrong, and immediately changed the goal posts.

              Be honest with yourself at least. You are trying to downplay this because you want it to go through.