• Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    He confirmed it. Mullvad has literally nothing to do with it. It’s a private donation.

    The point is. You’re listening to hardline socialists pointing at a party they disagree with screaming “facism!” And go like “oh… well, if they say so it must be the case”

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      private

      He confirmed it. Mullvad has literally nothing to do with it. It’s a private donation.

      Lol, even the Mullvad coowner Daniel Berntsson’s here himself displayed his displeasure with this fact

      ‘I don’t like that he made this donation’ — Mullvad CEO reacts to co-founder’s donation to controversial Swedish populist party

      And you are out here trying to, for whatever reason, claim that it is ok and Mullvad’s stance on the issue is in no way related to any of this. Among a myriad of reasons why this is not ok, Daniel Berntsson is not a departed or “retired” co-founder he plays an active role in the company’s policies and own %50 of it. So yes he has power to affect company policies in a major way.

      Directly from Mullvad

      Mullvad VPN AB and its parent company Amagicom AB are 100% owned by founders Fredrik Strömberg and Daniel Berntsson who are actively involved in the company.

      Here is another resource with detailed comparisons:

      Mullvad Owner Controversy: Daniel Berntsson’s 5 Million SEK Donation Explained

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        You are free to do what you wish. He is free to do what he wishes with his money. The other co-founder is free to think whatever he wants about it.

        The only thing I’ve done is bringing up that “flamman” is not a reliable publication. And should not be used as the main source of any claim. Since then a smörgårdsbord of other more reliable sources have been dug up that corroborate the reporting of the party’s views on certain topics.

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          The only thing I’ve done is bringing up that “flamman” is not a reliable publication.

          Direct quote from you and factual error:

          Mullvad has literally nothing to do with it.

          Also flamman is completely unrelated to this particular topic though you do really like bringing that up.

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        How about you read what you link…

        in the very link you send me, they confirm, that it’s Daniel, as a private individual that have donated. NOT them as a company.

        So please, clarify to me what I’m wrong about

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          Bro are you fucking illiterate? You said the source is weak and I said Mullvad literally confirmed it happened. I didn’t say Mullvad donated anything you fucking dumb fuck. Jesus Christ.

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            No but you are. I said it was a private donation. You go “wrong! Mullvad themselves confirmed it!”

            I just adore how everyone here are experts about this one irrelevant local Swedish party that 97% of swedes had never even heard of until recently.

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                  Exactly you dumb fuck. Mullvad confirmed it was a private donation but for some reason you are acting like I’m saying Mullvad made the donation. Read the thread in the image ten more times maybe it will finally pierce that thick fucking skull. You are wrong calling it a bogus story when IT’S BEEN LITERALLY CONFIRMED.

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                    5 hours ago

                    You’re just too funny. I say it’s a private donation, you respond

                    “Wrong! Mullvad confirmed it”

                    So if I say it’s a private donation, Mullvad confirmed it was a private donation… then I’m not wrong am I.

                    I’ve never denied that the donation took place. Keep up

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          I like how you have this one specific point about rejecting a logical fallacy but everyone is like no they suck and you’re like yeah they suck but these specific facts and then people are down voting you like you’re supporting fascists.

          It’s such the human condition of like if you’re not with us you’re against us

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            I migrated here from Reddit expecting a bit better open debate or opinion. nope same tribal fueled outrage bullshit with zero critical thinking.

            when did the internet become you either agree with me or you’re fascist/nazi or on “on the fence enabler” its really pathetic

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              11 hours ago

              People are people everywhere and politics is the tribal game. So… But Lemmy is still loads better than reddit if nothing else there’s no ads and you’re not constantly bombarded with dumb bullshit that just doesn’t matter. So much of reddit is just smart people trying to put out stupid fires, mostly set by the ownership class.

              It’s like we should all be working towards creating coalitions that can reverse the wealth extraction.

              Everything you like in life is a market inefficiency. The markets sole purpose is to deliver wealth to the ownership class. And I don’t know about you but I’m tired of living this way

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            Everyone are just experts on this one irrelevant local swedish party that 97% of swedes have never even heard of.

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              18 hours ago

              Yeah, but tbf half a million is a pretty significant war chest, I bet people do start hearing about them soon

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                18 hours ago

                This is just the streisand effect at full display. It’s election year. And the first time i hear about this party is not from political ads on the street, Tv, radio, debates.

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          I’m convinced you’re a fed or a troll. No one is this dense. You made a claim, got proven wrong, and immediately changed the goal posts.

          Be honest with yourself at least. You are trying to downplay this because you want it to go through.