• ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online
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    I’ve been working on fully cutting out alcohol from my diet. I tried for years but I think I am finally succeeding. Haven’t had a drink in almost two months.

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    They also found that drinking raises the risk of:

    …sexually transmitted infections

    This statement really made we wonder if they thought about actual causality at all.

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    Damn, glad I quit drinking.

    (Hits vape pen.)

    (/s, just in case it wasn’t clear.)

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    I don’t know how someone who grew up around people who drinked could have any other perception of alcohol than as poison. I don’t know a single person who drinks regularly who doesn’t have health conditions directly linked to it.

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    Had to do a double take with that image, the last time I saw it was in the instructions for how to use a menstrual cup. 😳

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    My dad worked on a project that could have made him and his colleague probably very rich (at least, it was successfully done to great wealth by someone else many years later) but his colleague had problems with alcohol, drunk called the investors and whatever he said made them pull out such that they had to cancel the project.

    His drinking got worse from there for him and he spent years in and out of prison. When I was about to go to college and my dad was meeting him after he got back out he took me aside and strictly warned me not to go crazy drinking in college. I truthfully told him that I don’t drink at all and I guess that was inconceivable to him because he started going, “You WILL drink. EVERYBODY drinks. Don’t lie and…” so on so forth.

    It never seemed appealing to me what with seeing people ruin their lives and act foolish, the odor, all the money people spend on it etc. I’m sure the taste is fine if you push through and try it a bunch but from seeing the effects I never wanted to. Meanwhile visiting other people’s houses as a kid my friends would be doing stuff like asking his mom if he could sniff her wineglass at dinner. 💀

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      You know this already but yeah you are absolutely the rational one here. I drank a lot back in the day because i had a terrible home life as a child and exhibited a few other self destructive behaviors, but in the last ten years or so ill drink one beer or glass of champagne at a wedding or the super bowl, but 100% just to be polite and avoid people chiding me to drink. Yes, people will actually get upset and tell me to drink sometimes, work people wcyd. Idk it’s like ethyl alcohol is exactly the stuff we used to sanitize surfaces at work because it kills everything and also dissolves the chemicals we work with. It’s just madness to drink that stuff!!

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      I truthfully told him that I don’t drink at all and I guess that was inconceivable to him because he started going, “You WILL drink. EVERYBODY drinks. Don’t lie and…” so on so forth.

      There’s a lot of social pressure to drink, particularly for folks over 40. My first year at my current company, it was very normal for the department head to take everyone down to the bar and buy them shots. We definitely had folks that declined. But those weren’t the ones he got close with. Consequently, they weren’t the ones who got fast tracked for promotions and raises and such.

      Not saying it’s a strict 1:1 correlation, because we definitely have a few teatoddlers in the upper wings of management. But it’s the exception more than the rule.

      There’s also a lot of status in drinking - particularly expensive wines and liquors - such that having a nice bottle on hand when friends are over is considered normal. So I can see why it’s frustrating to your dad, talking to someone who isn’t in that lifestyle and culture, when he hears “Oh, I just don’t do that”. Particularly, when he’s trying to hammer home how easy it is to go from “I don’t drink” to “I drank too much”.

      It never seemed appealing to me what with seeing people ruin their lives and act foolish, the odor, all the money people spend on it etc.

      It’s a popular social lubricant for a reason. A glass of wine or beer is great at reducing social anxiety. I’ve got friends who insist on a drink at big events. It’s that or pop a xanax.

      I also know a few girls who go from dead fish to horny af after a few glasses. So, when they want to hook up, they will take a few shots first to get in the mood. And “odor” can be a plus (for me, anyway) when it’s a petty scotch or rich cherry.

      There’s also an artistry to the craft of fermentation, such that it’s as much a hobby as a habit. I know a guy who brews his own beer and loves to bring different casks to events to show off what he’s made. And another who works in the industry. He loves to pull out bottles he picked up overseas and show off different styles, flavors, and techniques of manufacture.

      Then there’s just a general quality of pairing. My wife keeps a small wine collection, knows what pairs well, and regularly opens a bottle for cooking or to match with a particular meal.

      So… YMMV. But there’s definitely a big gray area between never drinking at all and being an alcoholic.

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        To be clear the guy with the drinking problem who was talking to me wasn’t my dad, he was a colleague and friend of my dad. My dad did drink from time to time but he wasn’t an alcoholic by any means and in recent years my dad gave up drinking entirely anyway whereas the other guy has unfortunately passed away some years back.

        I don’t care if other people drink for some reason or other (at least as long as it’s not impacting me… wasn’t fun when a drunk roommate was waving my computer around in the air unsteadily), whatever floats their boat, I just don’t personally.

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    While all of this is true and concerning, now is not the time to raw dog reality.

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      Doing weed is also bad for me. It got me quite severe health effects that I’m dealing with right now.

      I’m not regretting it for a second and the second my issues are under control I’ll use weed again (in much lower doses) because living in the raw reality right now just makes you depressed and suicidal. I’m m neither, and I’ll contribute that happily to pot, it made life nice again for a few years

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      Right? What’s to stop one from interpreting these results as “alcohol will get you off of this dogshit timeline sooner”?

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          Most drugs were scheduled to incriminate the lower income groups (i.e. mostly not white folks) They tried to ban alcohol once too. It didn’t go very well. Marijuana is less addictive and far less destructive, plus anyone can grow it, it’s like a fucking weed. Also, hops and Mary Jane are from the same family of plants.

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      Yeah if it’s going allow me to relax enough to have a good time on the weekends then it is what it is. No point in living anyway if I’m not able to have a good time.

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    Eh, I quit a few years ago. When you have to have conversations with yourself about it, it’s time. So cold turkey I went, luckily NBD for me. The only time I miss it is after a really trying, long day; or I’m just craving flavors that aren’t sugary drinks like soda. I don’t like sweet drinks very much. Alcohol lends an intensity to flavors that’s impossible to replicate.

    Looking back at it I’m really glad I quit.

    Anyway, hopefully added years/stopped shaving years off my life. We’ll see.

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        I destroy those since going sober. I think it’s that carbonation itself has a flavor, and in cheap beer that carbonation was actually the majority of the feel/flavor. Occasionally I’ll feel silly buying so much, but then I remember how much I used to spend on booze without batting an eye and grab another 12 pack for $2.85.

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          We also picked up a carbonation setup so we can make our own sodas and mineral water. Just to reduce plastic waste, I don’t think it’s cheaper than what you’re buying, though.

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        That’s good, and just fizzy mineral water too. Luckily the NA market for more interesting adult drinks is growing, so things like fake Moscow mules, Hop Tea, or other mocktails that have interesting flavors are starting to become more widely available and have zero alcohol. Not the same as the real thing, but generally pretty good and better than soda or other sugary stuff.

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        Depends. Alcohol dissolves things that normally are only fat soluble so you can get an entirely different flavour from common foods (wine and beer tastings/pairings for example)

        For fermented beverages the yeast and malt make a pretty unique flavour. Same with hops in a good pale ale or IPA. There’s also the body and mouth feel that’s hard to replicate without making alcohol. Residual sugars after fermentation are also kind of unique to alcohol since you always have normal sugars mixed in with other foods.

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          This is right. Alcohol is almost a flavor multiplier and also holds flavors that might be more volatile and disappear. That’s why if you were to completely remove the alcohol from a drink like gin or something it would taste wildly different and probably very flat even though the rest of the beverage is the same.

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      kombucha is really good for that, it may contain small amounts of alcohol but its really difficult to get it as potent before it turns more like vinegar. but the carbonation and even variations with hops are out there and are great.

      I used to do edibles every once in a while when they became legal here and found that alcohol was terrible when high because Id just get dizzy so i started drinking kombucha and it was amazing

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      Dose makes the poison. Water can kill you. There’s nothing wrong with alcohol.

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          Yeah I’m sober a year now due to drinking myself into severe heart failure (ejection fraction of 17%, up to 47% now) and this is correct. If you can enjoy it great, but the second people start making excuses it’s over, it’s just a matter of how long the slide takes.

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          Depends on what the alternative is. I’d prefer a beer to the water water of Flint i.e.

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            Actually it doesn’t depend. Acknowledging alcohol is bad for you makes no claim that other things are better or worse.

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        I say this as someone who deeply enjoys the occasional drink: there is no known minimum safe dose of alcohol. Every drink shortens your potential lifespan.

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        As a nurse, yeah no, you can’t really compare those. Water is essential for the human body. Alcohol has no benefits for the human body, quite the opposite.

        As far as I know, medicine came to the conclusion that there is no amount higher than 0 that won’t harm your body.

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        In theory, cocaine, opiates, etc. too. It’s just that our culture does not fearmonger about “ethanol addiction”, does not call “drinking” a slang term of junkies, and you cannot go to the shop to buy “Wallstreet Rush Hour”, “Businessmen’s salad”, or “Charlie’s Home-made Snowstorm”.

    • Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world
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      Owning a gun makes you 12-times more likely to die from a gunshot.

      Yep, and having a pool in your backyard makes you 12-times more likely to die from drowning.