In case you haven’t heard the news, Framework went and publicly sponsored Hyprland the most toxic part of Wayland by a country mile) and openly shilled Omarchy multiple times (the pet project of fascist shithead David Heinemeier Hansson) recently.

In response to well-justified backlash against this, founder Nirav Patel responded with FOSSbro platitudes about “[creating] a big tent" for open source”.

If you’ve got any more updates on this self-inflicted shitshow, put them here so they can be collected in one place.

(In retrospect, that AI-pilled Framework Desktop should’ve been a major red flag they were gonna pull this shit.)

  • cornflake@awful.systemsEnglish
    191·
    9 hours ago

    This reply is worth quoting at length:

    With all due respect, I think you profoundly misunderstand the nature of my concern here.

    This is not a “I do not like this distribution” kind of argument.

    This is a “the people you are sending my money to want me and my friends dead or deported” kind of argument.

    The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

    I have no problem with Fedora, Bluefin, Bazzite, Arch Linux, Linux Mint, Linux Foundation, LVFS, Debian, KDE… What I have a problem is with Framework consistently, repeatedly encouraging and now sponsoring individuals that have shown to be absolutely destructive to the open source community.

    Claiming that this “increasing the adoption of open source software” really misses the core part of the narrative here, which is that those people have been excluded from open source communities because they were so hateful, so destructive, that their mere presence was more harmful than beneficial.

    DHH is a threat to the free software community as a whole at this point. The damage he ended up doing to the Ruby community might end up outweighing entirely his contributions to Rails, which is no small feat.

    Vaxry (from hyprland) was banned from freedesktop.org, wrecking havoc in standardizing Wayland protocols that the whole community could have benefited from.

    If you believe helping and sponsoring those people helps the open source community, we have quite divergent views on the best way forward and, perhaps, it is best if you concentrate on making hardware and leave the open source community alone.

    In any case, thanks for your quick response, @nrp, and thanks for building those awesome products.

    • Mii@awful.systemsEnglish
      91·
      4 hours ago

      “[I]ncreasing the adoption of open source software” is such a bullshit argument here anyway, holy shit lol.

      They’re not sponsoring Asahi Linux or FOSS Nvidia drivers but DHH’s fucking Arch setup and Ratpoison but worse and with rounded corners.

      • BlueMonday1984@awful.systemsOPEnglish
        3·
        1 hour ago

        “[I]ncreasing the adoption of open source software” is such a bullshit argument here anyway, holy shit lol.

        Not to mention, actively welcoming Nazis into the open source bar is gonna achieve the exact goddamn opposite of increasing adoption, by driving away marginalised users, introducing unnecessary security risks, actively rotting communities from the inside, and God-only-knows-what-else.

      • Charlie@social.bitsnbytes.dev
        6·
        2 hours ago

        @mii @cornflake

        “We did not realize the ethics of the individuals that were behind these organizations; we’re sorry we should have investigated organizations better prior to donating to them. We will better research organizations in the future and we have stopped funding for these two groups”.

        That. Is that so fucking difficult for them to say?

        I’ve been checking the thread over the last couple days expecting something like that from them, but nope. Nothing yet.

        • BlueMonday1984@awful.systemsOPEnglish
          3·
          54 minutes ago

          At this point, I’m gonna stop extending benefit of the doubt - Framework’s choice to actively advance fascist interests, and double down when called out, is proof enough for me that they’re fascists themselves.