There are a few weird guys in there that I wasn’t already aware of. I knew that Louis Rossmann was kind of an asshole, but being openly active on kiwifarms is actually fucked up.
There are a few weird guys in there that I wasn’t already aware of. I knew that Louis Rossmann was kind of an asshole, but being openly active on kiwifarms is actually fucked up.
I’m commenting on Jack Dorsey, might apply to others…
Support for questionable persons might be a good reason to shame him - I’d like to see a bigger picture in all those cases. Is he focusing on assholes, or does he support 1000 projects including left extremists, right extremists or whatever to support “cool projects”? While anyone supporting the [far] right should be shamed, the perspective is important - to me at least.
Shaming him for supporting “censorship resistant infrastructure” because “weirdos like those” is… horrible. A few days ago A/I gave up. We need censorship resistant infra! We need Tor and alike. Yes, bad people will use it. There is no simple solution. Banning/shaming “censorship resistant infra” for being that is no solution.
If you protest against his presence and you win (by him withdrawing) don’t use it against him. That’s kind of lame. He gave in, you won. Take the win and move on.
after 33 years online I can confidently say that “censorship resistance” is overwhelmingly a right-wing shibboleth
The “censorship resistance” being criticised here is in support of free speech absolutism: posting propaganda, misinformation and brigading and trolling people with no recourse. This is bad and has real and meaningful consequences for people like Jason Arday who was recently driven-to-suicide for being black and successful amid false plagiarism allegations and a media witch hunt.
I agree that left leaning causes also need resilient comms infra to allow for organisation. Unfortunately these issues are two sides of the same coin. I think it is completely fair to criticise people like Dorsey who left bluesky in 2024 because of their moderation approach which is hardly heavy handed - especially if you are a far right hater of trans people . We can condemn this behaviour and also hold the belief that we need resilient infra that the government can’t easily seize.
This sounds way more nuanced than the reasons given on the site we are discussing. I can agree with you in the points you make.
oh fuck off
Oh for sure and I am definitely strong Manning Drew’s post to the max here. If it turns out he just generally means that resilient infra is bad with no nuance then I agree with your original point.