Mozilla once again notices that, in spite of the lavish salaries they heap upon their techbro executives, Firefox’s userbase continues to dwindle. Could this be because they don’t operate a monolithic surveillance advertising racket? Or maybe it’s because the corners in the UI aren’t round enough.
https://www.firefox.com/en-US/whatsnew/157/
Choice quote from that interview, which was important enough to get a big box in the release notes too:
We are bringing back compact mode as well
We removed it for absolutely no goddamn fucking reason, despite numerous objections, and now we’re bringing it back! This is called ‘listening’, you see. We are very dependable can definitely be relied upon to provide a stable browser that you won’t have to worry about.
Somehow those executives just can’t work out that unless you can advertise Firefox in all of the search engines and youtubes and gmails and docs and drives and whatever the fuck and preinstall it on all the phones, the Chrome users will not come. “Ooh shiny” is the least of anyone’s concerns.
Duh. Obviously the logo is what’s wrong, better redesign that too.
No, wait, it needs AI!
No, wait, it needs to tell me about some VPN.
Support the specifications, be secure. Perhaps try that.
I mean, can’t several things be worked on at the same time?
Yes, but you need to be careful not to give the impression that all you are doing is work on round borders again, and not on supporting more web features.
I think it’s pretty safe to assume web platform features are being continuously worked on. If that doesn’t happen, it would cease to be a browser fairly quickly, given how much is happening constantly within that sphere…
I for one don’t need them to constantly reassure me in every release notes that “don’t worry guys, we’re also working on the web platform”. 😆
Well, to me this is yet another redesign; still no support for WebUSB. I worry and rant because I care, as I don’t ever want to use a Chromium-based browser. So, Firefox should really put focus (as well as focus in blog announcements) on the true important aspects of the web.
Making a browser is hard. Moaning about missing features from a nonprofit, and volunteer project doesn’t look good.
I imagine it’s also a matter of attracting “regular” users as well, not just techies who want WebUSB. 😅 Chicken and egg situation. More users, more sponsors(?), more features and clean UI, and more users.
I think that if they had all the resources in the world they would make your favorite feature request happen, too. I’m sure they don’t make silly decisions for no reason. There’s always a rationale, but it might not be the best one in your subjective opinion.
Ah, I see you’ve never used Firefox or paid attention to any of the decisions that Mozilla’s leadership makes.
Cute.
I’ve been using it without issue since 2018, and before that, since the Firebird days all up until the release date of Chrome. So the majority of my life.
Anything else you want to add to the conversation other than this… nothing?
it’s rich to fill this thread with exhausting fandom for mozilla of all corporations when you’ve only been a daily Firefox user since 2018 (cute)
Mozilla Corporation, whose CEO was paid six million dollars last year, and 6.9 million in 2022, is a nonprofit volunteer project?
Of course the CEO gets paid that, if they don’t do that they run the risk of running a profit, gotta get rid of the money somehow. /s
The Foundation is.
But regarding the Corporation:
That wasn’t really the butt of the point either way.
They don’t have funds like the Chromium project. If you want features so badly, let’s rally some investment funding from the people? It’s a browser for the people. 🤷♂️
I think thats an intentional choice, because the security and privacy over the current implementation (which is designed around chrome fingerprinting as always)
@cristian64 @victorz hey! They’re also working on AI AI AI AI
When funds are tight? No, they can’t. There are finite engineering resources. The more new features you add, the more bugs are introduced, and the less resources there are to fix any of them (old or new).
I’m sure they don’t have just the “one single team” that they assigned to the UI overhaul for the last release… Be real.
Which is why frontend designers should start working on backend specifications