Do LLMs “think” in a similar way to humans? Or is it totally different?

Maybe it’s a good idea to listen to someone who publishes papers on this very subject, and is a professor of both philosophy and psychiatry and directs an Institute for Cognitive Science. That person is Dr. Chandra Sripada and his insights are fascinating.

Sean Carroll (interviewer, scientist and science communicator) says this interview made him lean towards the answer being “yes, they think like humans” whereas previously he favored the opposite view.

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    2 days ago

    LLMs are spicy auto-correct. Anthropomorphizing them isn’t going to suddenly change reality…

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      auto-correct

      I can tell you’re not up to date on cognitive psychology.

      The principle of minimizing surprise – of predicting the next thing – is what most people who study this sort of thing have used as the basis for most of our cognitive capacity.

      But, please do keep telling us your popular opinion, I’m sure it’s well-informed by detailed published studies.

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          I can tell you didn’t listen to the podcast. A lot of it is about how System I / production systems are very similar to simple one-pass LLM outputs, and how Reasoning models closely match System II

          Which BTW has very little directly to do with the notion that minimizing surprise – predicting the next thing – is the basis of much neurology and psychology.

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            I wouldn’t think that your advertising of the podcast is so successful as to make people listen to it.

            But somehow you seem to be leaking the idea that reasoning models are something different than autoregressive LLMs. Yes, they do have different fine-tuning and system prompts, but little beyond that. Subbarao Kambhampati has worked a lot on this, e.g. https://doi.org/10.1111/nyas.15339 or https://doi.org/10.1111/nyas.15125

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          You are objecting to an objectively debatable, scientifically study-able thesis with ad-hominem, tribalism, end emotional groupthink.

          I don’t see a lot of critiques about the notion of production systems in LLMs being phenomenologically similar to those in humans, nor to any of the other reasons why this particular expert – which I am not – has the opinion that neural net cognition is usefully describable as akin – “cousin to” – human cognition.

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              Oh, completely agree! In a way that was the point being made by the interviewee (Sripada)

              That cognitive psych had been stuck for decades with a well-documented robust phenomenology, but no really good, biologically-plausible, mechanistic models.

              And then suddenly LLMs show up – an actual technological artifact non-trivially displaying much of the same phenomenology, biologically motivated, and completely mechanistic.

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            1 day ago

            I was wrong. You’re not an AI shill, you’re just an AI that was told to justify its existence…

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        The principle of minimizing surprise – of predicting the next thing – is what most people who study this sort of thing have used as the basis for most of our cognitive capacity.

        Cool unscientific story.

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      Anthropomorphizing them isn’t going to suddenly change reality…

      No more than thought terminating clishes do.

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          19 hours ago

          Marketing does not care about the validity of its claims.