So, some problems do solve themselves.
Maybe eventually, but not fast enough.
Don’t walk, run!
Unfortunately they are also breeding more
Political belief isn’t inherited.
Not genetically but there’s a huge tribal component.
When raised by the willfully stupid, the turd doesn’t fall far from the asshole.
Why are you still trying to convince these idiots medicine is good? Just let them die
Just suck on this pine cone until it dissolves. You don’t need liberal chemistry.
They’re not dying, they’re just earning Darwin Awards.
Winners until the very end!
Really wish you guys would stop subscribing to eugenics as an own against fascists. I know you’re gonna say it isn’t, because you guys always do, but the obvious joke here is that they’re stupid and make stupid decisions because they are stupid and are purged from the collective genepool because they are stupid. Do you seriously not see the problem with reproducing the notion that political and cultural forces are in fact consistent with the natural world, or that people who are “stupid” are weak and unfit to be part of human evolution?
Yes, anti-science beliefs are not a sign of scientific (or emotional) literacy, and the people who refuse medical science on the basis of politics likely do not understand either topic very well. It is worth noting that the recent Ebola outbreak in the DRC was met with violence from locals who did not trust the medical institution (and this has happened before), which also results from a misunderstanding of what that institution is and how it works: https://www.npr.org/2026/05/29/g-s1-124359/ebola-outbreak-trust-death-burial-democratic-republic-congo. Their mistrust is also earned by centuries of EuroAmerican imperialism and decades of capitalization on the material and political insecurities in the DRC.
There is certainly good reason to attribute more responsibility to privileged white people in the US imperial metropole, but your joke makes the exact opposite point, which is that people who are too “stupid” to accept medical science are naturally inferior to those who do. Can you see the problem with taking that assertion for granted as a “joke?”
I just don’t give a shit anymore. Do u?
Yeah. This is where I’m at.
They burned through all my goodwill. And I really did used to have some set aside for them.
Now I really don’t care if they die. Sounds like a them problem.
Yes. I give a shit about challenging racism, genocide, or any other forms of naturalized violence under colonialism and capitalism. Apathy is for liberals.
Okie dokie.
Hey… if you think choosing RFK’s “scientific” advice is being illiterate when it was clearly a political stance who am i to judge… you’re wasting your keyboard though, i have absolutely no sympathy for those who show none and applaud any moron who thinks drinking bleach will cleanse COVID because some incompetent businessman - not a doctor - said so.
Love that you couldn’t even control yourself long enough to read up to how this connects to racism and colonialism and decided instead to admit that you don’t care if you advocate for white supremacy to own the MAGAts.
It’s fine to call them stupid, dummy, it’s bad to assert that intelligence is naturalized and unfit members of society deserve to be purged from existence. News flash: that is anti-science (and science and anti-science are both political btw), dicknuts.
Can we make this a law?
Partisans have to follow ideological discipline… if conservative, you must:
not get vaccines
Not have abortions
Not be allowed subsidized food or health care
Follow all tenets of your Christian religion
Etc…We can call it the “Practice what you preach” law
As long as also the liberals follow the same law practing what they preach, it would be interesting to see who will survive in the end.
I fully agree, but am having trouble coming up with examples for the liberals like i could for the conservatives…
it would be interesting to see who will survive in the end.
This isn’t even a debate. Liberals, because they listen to scientific experts. And they’re more likely to achieve a higher eductaion.
I knew at least 10 Conservative people who are now dead because of their devotion to the prosperity gospel. Problem is, once they were too sick for it to matter, they begged for medical attention, which you and I paid for.
and no masks by MDs when they get surgery.
Lol. There wouldn’t be a single conservative left in existence.
I bet rich conservatives aren’t. Because for them it’s just a grift and they will get the newest stemcell medicine as fast as possible regardless.
It’s kinda sad or funny or something.
To quote the Orange: “It is what it is.”
Make natural selection great again.
Both of my conservative parents died because they ignored their doctors and thought they knew better than professionals.
Die faster.
Someone I loved very much died because he thought the Covid vaccine would kill him. Before he fell down the alt-medicine rabbit hole, he was one of my favorite uncles. He was a good guy.
He had four kids, all still in grade school, and a wife who’s now a single mom. He didn’t deserve to become a casualty of a confidence scam. He deserved to live. It pisses me off when people look at the death toll of a believable lie and gloat about how it’s removing the ‘right’ people.
They fell for a scam. That doesn’t merit the death sentence.
Edit: I didn’t think that publicly showing some vulnerability by talking about a dead loved one was such a god damned controversial take. Humans are a social species. We are hardwired to trust our peers because it is part of how we evolved to survive.
When that evolutionary advantage is exploited by con artists and cult leaders, it is difficult to fight. No one is immune to believing a lie. No matter how smart, sensitive, or cynical, we have the same fundamental weakness; we trust our in-group before we trust an unknown outlier. Consider the last time you found out that a fundamental part of your worldview turned out to be part of a broader deception, and how difficult it was to overcome that in spite of the mountain of obvious evidence.
I asked for people to remember that, and have empathy. Nothing more. The reason? The only way to convince someone to get out of a cult is to give them some empathy, and wait. To quietly demonstrate, through sustained neutral interactions, that a piece of their worldview doesn’t work. That strategy fails when you alienate them. Alienating them validates their conditioning and drives them deeper into the deception and the alternative reality it offers.
Someone you love believes something that isn’t true. And eventually, they’ll run into evidence that denies their view. For my uncle, that opportunity to change his mind came too late. Lies kill people. That is a fact. Have a god damn heart, and be patient. Unraveling your whole world is a terrifying undertaking, and they need a hand when that moment comes, not hatred…
Is everyone who falls for a scam–whether it’s crypto, alternative medicine, or MAGA–a good person? Hell no. Should you make that effort for everyone? Again, no. All I’m asking is that if someone you love falls for a trap, try to pull them out of it before it’s too late.
Nah, he had access to the same information as the rest of us, but his obsession with Trump was more important to him than his family. He worked hard to earn his death, and his family should resent him for the rest of their lives for abandoning them.
And so should you. If Trump had started rounding up and murdering immigrants and dissidents, he would have cheered for it. Don’t deny it, he literally died for Trump. He was a bad and stupid person, who died because of his own poor choices.
It’s wild. Americans being unwilling to enact even SOCIAL consequences on MAGA garbage is exactly why they are where they are. These people need to be cut off without a second thought.
I’m glad no one you cared about died because they got suckered into following a cult. I’m glad you don’t have to wonder if they’ll get hurt because they’ve been brainwashed. I’m glad you don’t have to wonder who fed them such poisonous lies, and fight to try and cure it.
I’m glad no one you cared about died because they got suckered into following a cult.
No one I know died because no one I know is that stupid. And that actually includes my MAGA dad who I don’t talk to anymore, but I think that’s because he spent his life working in a hospital, and that allowed him to avoid falling for THAT part of the MAGA scam.
I’m not going to feel sorry for assholes that choose to ignore advice from highly educated professionals in favor of listening to felons, rapists, and pedophiles instead.
Cool. Very noble and high minded, aren’t you?.
People like you are the reason the US is where it is.
Yes… too many people with empathy and beliefs rooted in complex first hand experience. That’s why the U.S. is where it is…
Definitely nothing to do with people jumping to conclusion driven by black and white thinking
Cool. You live in your grey area where Nazis have some good qualities and maybe you can reach them if you overlook the fact that they’re absolute garbage. That’s definitely stopped fascists before.
I don’t want to accuse you of pulling something out of your ass just to box me into a false dichotomy, but I also don’t recall typing any of that?
Pretty fucked up your making fun of someone who lost a loved one. Completely ignorant to think something like that couldn’t happen to you, unless you don’t have loved ones, dick.
When maga stop wanting me dead I’ll start caring when they die.
Preach.
I’m not making fun of anyone, I’m criticizing someone. For the things they’re saying.
Does experiencing grief (even for science-denying fascist enablers) equal immunity from criticism where you’re from?
Never said that but keep shadowboxing comments online to feel good about yourself you fukin loser
Don’t you know that the US and Canada are twins? Don’t you see that your country is going the exact same way ours is? Those are your friends and family who are reading the same trash, maybe wedging its way into the same cracks in their logic that killed someone I loved.
If it hasn’t happened, it will. And I hope when it does, you try to save them too.
Yes, I know that your inaction is likely to make this our problem eventually too.
And when it does, any “friends and family” espousing that garbage gets cut off AT BEST. If they’re fortunate, they’ll get to keep all their teeth. And if they decide that conspiracy theories are more attractive than, you know, staying alive, good riddance.
Looking through your comment history, you seem to make a career out of blaming and mocking victims. I have to wonder who hurt you so badly that you spend all day hurting other people. How does using your trauma like it’s a keyboard assault weapon help your cause?
Really? You met him?
He kissed your head and grinned when you talked about your favorite superheroes? He picked you up and swung you around on his arms with his own kids, singing songs about monkeys in trees?
He held you when you cried? He held your mother when she cried?
You make a lot of assumptions for some faceless ass on the deep dark depths of the internet.
Hitler loved dogs and children. He also slaughtered millions of them.
I didn’t know your uncle personally, but I know he was a MAGA who was so dug in that he literally put his obsession for Trump ahead of his love for his family, and died for it, abandoning his 4 kids. Anyone who puts their politics or religion ahead of their love for their own children is a sociopathic loser.
What else do I need to know about him? Nothing he possibly did is going to redeem him for being an unapologetic MAGA sociopath to the very end.
You’re an asshole
Calling someone you’ve never met a sociopath while demonstrating a complete lack of empathy is certainly ironic.
Health conspiracies predate trump and will continue long after him.
They weren’t always right coded either. The granola health nuts were left leaning conspiracy nuts for decades.
Lot of assumptions. First and foremost that he liked Trump.
I could make a lot of assumptions about you.
You and people like you are the reason maga rose to power to begin with. But go ahead, Keep posting about your moral superiority online, I’m sure that will fix everything.
You and people like you are the reason maga rose to power to begin with.
MAGA rose to power because they are gullible bigots and a rich bigot came along and played to those weaknesses to make some $$$.
But it wasn’t believable.
No one should have believed it.
People falling for the “scam” aren’t fooled, they are buying in to an ideology that they want to support.
They fell for a scam. That doesn’t merit the death sentence.
You know, if this scam wasn’t both easily avoidable and actively calling for the imprisonment and/or death of various groups of people within the country, I might be a bit more sympathetic. I know it can be tough watching someone you know fall for it and not being able to stop it, but getting mad at internet strangers who say that MAGA followers got what they should have seen coming to them has the same vibes as going “But my uncle was a good guy before he fell for all this Nazi stuff Hitler is saying, he didn’t deserve this,” while overlooking that they volunteered to be a guard at one of the camps.
Nobody is forcing people at gun point to go MAGA at present, and adopting and promoting that ideology has real impacts on other peoples’ lives, which currently include arbitrary imprisonment, an inhumane death camp in El Salvador and Trump’s brown shirts beating and killing people in the streets. So it might suck on a personal level, but who are you to tell someone who lost their access to abortion, medical care and/or the ability to just live a normal life if they happen to be trans or gay in the wrong state, or even someone they know being rounded up by ICE that they’re bad people when they say, “Well, good thing another MAGA person died, that’s one less of them fucking up my life,” in a situation like this?
Again, it sucks for you that you lost your uncle, but he didn’t live in a vacuum and the ideology he adopted has real, severe consequences for everyone else who has to deal with it.
With that said, I do think we need to give some serious thought to deprogramming these folks and reintegrating them with civilization in the near future. “Screw them all, let’s just kill them,” is hardly going ti be a viable strategy when we have to face our own period of de-Nazification in the future and could be helpful in actually getting some off the indoctrination pipeline and reducing their numbers in the present. There are millions of people who have openly embraced fascism in the US, and millions more supporting right-wing extremists in Latin America and Europe. Indefinite imprisonment or mass executions are both equally unfeasible as solutions for when we collectively pullour heads out of our asses as humans and go “Oh shit, we really fucked up with this fascism stuff, again. What do we do now?”
Where did I say that he was pro-Trump? I said that he believed medical misinformation. He had conservative leanings, but he didn’t vote for him. He fell down a different rabbit hole.
You know, that was a bad assumption on my part commenting on an article about conservatives and their conspiratorial views, but it still just changes the specifics of things, rather than the grand picture, as your uncle still didn’t live in a vacuum. The vaccine skepticism and other nonsense still made things worse for everyone, and caused needless deaths, aside from your uncle’s. I get that it can be harsh for those who personally knew an individual, but you can’t ignore the impact that line of thinking has on everyone else around them and pull out the surprised PIkachu gif when people are less than sympathetic towards them.
Personally, I had to deal with those sorts of yokels yelling at me and being jackasses because I was wearing a face mask in the fall of 2020, actively following up on the health issues that arose after I had the OG Covid and was left unable to walk more than two blocks from my apartment without being completely exhausted, and had to deal with my body deciding that it was an excellent time to develop an autoimmune disease and nerve damage. I’d be yelled at to take off “that face diaper” because Covid isn’t real, and vaccines are fake, blah blah blah, from the same sort of people who were all in for Trump, so I’ve got a bit of a bias there. Still don’t have much sympathy for them, though.
As someone else pointed out, they had access to the same information as the rest of us, and chose to go with the dumbest possible conclusions they could draw, yelling “Fake new!” and “Do your own research!” to the rest of us desperately screaming at them to knock that shit off, get with the program and stop actively making an ongoing pandemic worse for themselves and those around them. They decided that they and their misinformation monger(s) of choice knew better than the rest of the world, and now we all have to live with the consequences of it.
They fell for a scam. That doesn’t merit the death sentence.
Agree. The sad fact is there have been plenty of mistakes made throughout history that can often serve as a kernel of truth to make a lie just believable enough. Given historical context within the U.S. (for example Tuskegee experiments), and the fact that even in the last decade we’ve uncovered more cases of unethical human experimentation by both the government and private companies (MK Ultra, social media manipulation of users emotions), we really should be asking why more isn’t being done by leaders to: 1. Publicly acknowledge some very big mistakes, 2. Create ongoing consequences for the people who did this unethical bullshit. As in, ongoing financial penalties/compensations for victims and their families/communities, and demanding more transparency from these agencies and businesses… Instead of allowing them to just continue operating as normal, essentially tax free with zero transparency while pretending we should all just say thank you.
Idk is expecting the bare minimum from the people we trust (and PAY) to create and enforce laws and policy really too far fetched?
I know whenever I read some crazy MAHA bullshit coming from DHHS in 2026 implying I should be depending on raw milk for my own health instead of vaccinations, I think about the fact that A. Obviously this is a once trusted source of information I can no longer trust, B. The damage currently being done to public trust isn’t going to disappear overnight if/when fascism leaves office, C. The current damage is compounded on top of a lot of previous damage our government never took the time to actually acknowledge and try to repair. D. I doubt anybody in this administration will face consequences for the damage they’re doing, but there will be ongoing consequences to public health and safety for decades if not generations. And that’s kind of their overarching goal.
Tldr: It’s valid to be angry at people for making poor choices, but they’re still people. I’m more angry at the system that failed them and is continuing to fail all of us by not demanding accountability from the agencies/corporations/individuals who knew what they were doing was wrong, but did it anyway because they believed/trusted that even if they got caught, any consequences/penalities would be insignificant.
A couple I knew in college, basically they’d been together since elementary school, moved to rural Minnesota to live their newfound conservative principles. When COVID hit, they were vocally anti-vaccine and antimask, even crusading to ban masks from their little community.
The whole family got sick, and the husband died on a government-provided respirator. The wife and her grown kids still blame Biden.
The wife and her grown kids still blame Biden.
Well they can’t blame themselves. That’s a sign of weakness!!!
This is why i call the conservative/alternative medicine mindset a “brain worm”. If unprepared, you can get infected.
They’ve been falling for the scam so long that it’s nobody’s fault but their own now.
Its sad but inevitable. Gotta suck it up
He wasn’t a good guy, and the world is a better place without him.
Imagine having no empathy, as if that will make the world a better place.
Imagine having no empathy
Eh. Our conservative leaders are telling us empathy is a weakness (literally).
Nazis don’t get empathy. They deserve to be put underground.
No idea what this sentiment has to do with my reply. Not everyone that refuses the covid vaccine or uses alt medicine is a nazi.
True.
But most subscribe to an ideology that is becoming more and more akin to Nazism.
But yeah, there are people of all sorts that are just weird about vaccines and doctors and it may have nothing to do with their political beliefs. People believing that all anti-vaxxers are MAGA Nazis is just another thing MAGA Nazis have ruined for us.
I guess it depends if he was just consuming the misinformation or if he was actively spreading the misinformation
World woulda been fucking better if there was help for the dude’s uncle. Please don’t be so callous.
There was help. Still is. These people have agency and the same access to information you and I do. If anyone believes something in spite of the available information it’s because they want to. They’re just dumb, but this kinda dumb kills other people too, not just themselves.
But there was help for people like this uncle. There were massive campaigns to address vaccine misinformation and conspiracy theories about COVID, to which they collectively said “No thanks, I did my own research.” What were we supposed to do, set up reeducation camps and forcibly round them up and ship them off? I can’t really see that being a viable solution.
Ironically RFK has said he wants what amount to reeducation camps.
Go fuck yourself. Feel free to talk shit about your own family. Don’t talk shit about mine.
This is literally natural selection in action. Do not interfere. They want to do everything on their own, no problem. But no hypocrisy. Make your choice and stand by it come what may.
Nature gives no fucks about MAGAt feelings
Nature gives no fucks
It’s not happening fast enough. I think they need help.
It’s not natural selection if they breed before dying, and I think the conservatives are still having more children earlier then liberals because they think God said condoms and abortion are evil.
If they don’t vaccinate their kids, then evolution is back on the table, and not just for the pathogens.
Conservative types get balance by taking fascism to it’s genocidal end against non-conservatives
Good news.
This is one way to make America healthy again.
Yep. If you cull the weak fast enough, you never have more than a handful of sick people at a time. Mom taught me that!
Oh, the regime will make sure we catch up. I’ll give it another 5 years, modern medicine will be available only to the very rich.
5 years?
Probably got hit with some huge unexpected medical bills and started avoiding doctors since they didn’t trust them anyway.
