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    80% the people on TT, YT and IG are there to follow content creators that are only on those platforms to make money.

    Until creators can easily make money on Fediverse platforms, they’ll always play second fiddle to closed platforms that market and share profits, no matter how crappy the returns are.

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      Maybe it’s just me, but the influencer type content creators are part of what I’m fleeing from in the mainstream social media options. The internet is better without them. The gamification and monitization leads to enshittification. Reddit really started going to shit when the same people’s posts were always on the front page, and then you had the same people modding and gaming their communities to push it. I personally would hate if that happened to fediverse alternatives.

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        I don’t really care that much about influencers, the fake outrage and fake indignation. I want to watch people play games I can’t afford and don’t have time to dedicate to playing. And I don’t want to watch it live, I want to start it when I feel like it and stop it when I’m busy. I want some astrophysics news, some people cooking some shit. All those people are solely there because they can afford to stop their day jobs and make something interesting. I want to see some great scott and some tom scott.

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        The ideal is people doing it just because they can, but how many people have the financial means for that? I’d say another reason for Reddit going to shit is all the people wanting to express themselves somehow, but only having a little bit of time to type something out on their phones and not enough to put thought or research into what they are saying. Streamers, youtubers etc. put a lot of work and practice into making something someone might consider good, and a lot of that is only possible because they get paid and so don’t have to get another full time job that removes any time for creative pursuits.

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      This sounds like an excellent feature. Fuck people trying to make money I wanna post stupid memes.

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        fucking awesome for Lemmy, kinda bad for video that takes 40 hour workweeks to produce.

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        This is a big thing I’ve been thinking about with Youtube. People clearly have problems with it. But they’re so locked in that they feel they can’t move to another platform.

        I don’t even think they creators need to make a full jump for Peertube to grow. But having content Cross-posted, and for creators to go “and if you want an alternative to YouTube, I’m also on PeerTube” would go a long way.

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        Floatplane in particular seems promising, but between them and viva plus, they really outline how expensive it is to try to do it Youtube style. But then you have things like odysee where they just barely monetize, and you see what hot trash that brings in.

        It’s a hard nut to crack.

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      Then we can get new creators and a new kind of community.

      Something different, can still grow and be beautiful.

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      @rumba This is where we need to showcase things like Patreon and other ways of people making money from people who truly enjoy there work, pay people not corporations.

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        now go convince all those creators making a living that have both youtube and patreon money coming in to post on a free only alternative and just go to patreon income.

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          I know it’s not as simple as that, but creators are annoyed of these platforms, mirroring your content on the Fediverse is easy through PeerTube and having ‘uncensored’ or less restricted videos be uploaded onto PeerTube can help.

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            Honestly, the fact they complain about the platforms all the time while doing nothing to leave those platforms what-so-ever just feels like another manipulation tactic like clickbait titles and thumbnails.

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              As someone who creates stuff myself, I know how it is, It’s hard to move away from the platforms when there’s so many more people that see’s your content on them.

              I wish I could get half the people that get to see my content on PeerTube but sadly as of the moment it’s not the case.

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            it’s super easy to get the content on to peer tube, just not financially sound.