Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 17th August 2025 - awful.systems
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Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret. Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no. If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high. > The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be) > Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them. Previous week [https://awful.systems/post/5168673]

Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

  • Soyweiser@awful.systemsEnglish
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    12 hours ago

    That opening has a strong ‘omg what the fuck happened there, and why are you still friends with these people if it is that bad’ vibes.

    Lots of ex Maplers I’ve talked to are variously angry, some (newly) traumatized, confused, etc., but the vibe has generally been "gosh it’s fucking complicated

    Lot of people told me they were mad, but I got the vibe it was complicated. lol what…

    The product of monasteries is saints, at least in small quantities.

    Wrong, it is beer.

    I haven’t seen anti-safetyist arguments that actually address the technical claims made by Eliezer etc.

    I agree with him there. But hard to make arguments against something which doesn’t exist. ;)

    it will take some very unusual kind of virtue and skill

    Love how we went from ‘you need to learn rationality, and be aware of your biasses’ to you need to have virtue. And ignore the screaming in the backgrounds, that is just the academics who studied ethics doing their normal thing again.

    Anyway the rest gets pretty dark pretty quickly, and I just see red flags (for people who believe in data this devolves very quickly in just going ‘people are prob better off due to this, the new trauma doesn’t count because of preexisting conditions, consent and trauma always happening’). And this was the article they wrote not wanting to harm the project.

    Wait one more remark:

    Furthermore I think that probably with the exception of the one actual AI researcher there, people at Maple basically don’t understand what AI is

    Hahahaha, perfect.

    It also reminds me of the interview with Metz where they got mad Metz used religious terms. (you know, last week).