I’m just going through my past history, and looking for anything where the subject is “*Permanently Deleted*” and where the Modlog for that community shows nothing.

None of these appear in the modlog of their respective communities.

I’ve been told before in an earlier comment chain that this might be due to the post user being permanently deleted.

Is there any way I can verify this as an end-user? Once the post is gone, I can’t see the username of who posted it.

It’s just a bit of a small hole in the transparency of Lemmy’s fantastic moderation

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    14 days ago

    That makes sense, but I’m just wondering if there’s any way for an end-user such as myself can easily see this (e.g. modlog, userbanlog, or otherwise) to verify.

    From my perspective, I hope you can understand how bewildering it is to have this record gap.

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        14 days ago

        I understand, but is there no userbanlog to check as well, where a deleted post is tied to a banned user?

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          That’s what I’m saying. The post is gone because the user deleted their account. Everything about that account is gone. I believe it works that way due to European laws on the right to be forgotten.

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              14 days ago

              Two separate things.

              User bans already appear in the modlogs.

              Self deleted accounts don’t appear in anything, because they are truly erased.

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                  I am honestly confused.

                  The existing modlog already includes user bans.

                  Your comments were never removed, so they don’t appear in a modlog.

                  You can’t find the parent posts your comments were made on, because they are permanently deleted due to the poster deleting their account. These don’t appear in the modlog, because they were removed by the user, not a mod. There was no reason to attach, because the reason is that the user deleted their account.

                  If the user had a post deleted by a mod before they then deleted their own account, it won’t appear in the modlog, because both the user and the post in question have been removed from the system. If it was in the modlog, all you would be able to see is that an unknown user had some unknown content removed, or than an unknown user was banned, which is less than useful.

                  If what you’re asking about isn’t covered by that, then I genuinely don’t understand the scenario you’re trying to clarify

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                    Aim: Find out why a post is missing

                    Ideally: Deleted Post -> Deleted User -> Reason for deletion

                    Reality:

                    1. The post is missing, this event does not show up in the modlog for posts
                    2. One reason given is that the posts are purged when the user’s account was deleted
                    3. To verify this, one needs to know the poster’s username in advance, but this info is not visible from the deleted post.
                    4. Trawl through the modlog for deleted users and hope you find one connected to the post in question
                    5. Take it on good faith that the user and all their posts were deleted for good reason.
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      In this very specific case, you would need to check your account profile from another instance (the way I did it, from my instance) to see those posts that would still exist but not on lemmy.ml as they’ve been banned.