The Fairphone 6 Plus is a minor upgrade over its predecessor, despite costing more. However, it's available to US buyers, which is a significant development.
Regional restricted phone. Can’t even deliver through forwarding company because store does not accept payment method with billing address from my country.
It would be completely fine for me if this company could not deliver the phone to my country. Logistics is difficult and expensive. If i wanted to get one anyway, i could just deliver it through forwading company from my country, for an additional delivery fee. The main problem however, which i am the most outraged about, is that they intentionally restrict payment from countries where they will not deliver, even though i have money and can deliver through third party delivery service.
In what way forcing a regional restriction a good thing? All banks in my country support international payment methods like master card and visa, while most banks also provide and option to register an euro card. How does intentionally not accepting international payment even in euro just because the card is registered in other country, a good thing and counts as a strict complience?
This is because you have a limited understanding of what their compliance process entails. I don’t think they are intentionally refusing to accept payment from a list of countries but rather they have not completed the due diligence or fulfilled these compliance requirements yet. They are a relatively small company still.
Take this with a grain of salt as i am not an expert but when i looked into it if you sell knowing it will go to a forwarding service to a specific country legally it then counts as selling to that country and the seller is on the hook for all the regulations so they have to block it.
Then it is a regional restriction. Its one thing when company does not bother selling it in other country, and a completely different thing when it is intentionally restricting product sales in those countries. And unlike software, physical products cannot be just pirated, while smuggling is significantly risker.
Again i don’t know for sure but from my understanding to answer this question and the one you asked ironblossom.
If a company accepts payment and ships to a fowarding service knowing it is going to a certain country then that is legally the same as if they shipped it themselves.
If their product is not certified to be sold in that country the seller now can face heavy fines.
If their product is defective and causes damage and they don’t have insurance for that country then the seller can be on the hook for heavy payouts.
Regional restricted phone. Can’t even deliver through forwarding company because store does not accept payment method with billing address from my country.
European companies struggle with scale. Canada is neglected by Fairphone.
It would be completely fine for me if this company could not deliver the phone to my country. Logistics is difficult and expensive. If i wanted to get one anyway, i could just deliver it through forwading company from my country, for an additional delivery fee. The main problem however, which i am the most outraged about, is that they intentionally restrict payment from countries where they will not deliver, even though i have money and can deliver through third party delivery service.
This is simply due to a strict compliance process which is a good thing
In what way forcing a regional restriction a good thing? All banks in my country support international payment methods like master card and visa, while most banks also provide and option to register an euro card. How does intentionally not accepting international payment even in euro just because the card is registered in other country, a good thing and counts as a strict complience?
This is because you have a limited understanding of what their compliance process entails. I don’t think they are intentionally refusing to accept payment from a list of countries but rather they have not completed the due diligence or fulfilled these compliance requirements yet. They are a relatively small company still.
Take this with a grain of salt as i am not an expert but when i looked into it if you sell knowing it will go to a forwarding service to a specific country legally it then counts as selling to that country and the seller is on the hook for all the regulations so they have to block it.
Then it is a regional restriction. Its one thing when company does not bother selling it in other country, and a completely different thing when it is intentionally restricting product sales in those countries. And unlike software, physical products cannot be just pirated, while smuggling is significantly risker.
Again i don’t know for sure but from my understanding to answer this question and the one you asked ironblossom.
If a company accepts payment and ships to a fowarding service knowing it is going to a certain country then that is legally the same as if they shipped it themselves.
If their product is not certified to be sold in that country the seller now can face heavy fines.
If their product is defective and causes damage and they don’t have insurance for that country then the seller can be on the hook for heavy payouts.
To prevent this the seller must block the sale.