Good. I get why they were originally resistant to it, but fringe, outlier situations can be dealt with when you have actual mods maintaining things. The reason quote-retweeting was used so heavily for bullying on Twitter was because there were no repercussions for it, and Twitter never enforced their bullying rules for the practice. Mastodon instances have their own mods enforcing their own rules, to a much better degree than Twitter ever has. While the potential for bullying still exists, it’s far easier to mitigate on Mastodon.
I’m so confused. How would quoting someone’s words bully them? Maybe I’m not getting something. You’re talking like I say something on mastodon, you quote what I said, with me attributed to the quote, and that bullys me? Or am I missing something? I feel like I’m missing something.
Haha, what a bozo! Now we’re going to relentlessly shit-talk them in this sub-thread that OP has no ability to moderate nor stem the flow of vitriol from.
The quote isnt bullying at all. Its your own post using words like idiot ect. Thats abusing which again has nothing to do with the post below it. A mundane version of that post wouldnt be as controversial and most likely be roundly ignored.
Might as well just remove the ability of people to post. That will fix it
You have to think of it from a micro blogging perspective. Imagine I have a ton of followers and have created a culture of them attacking anyone I attack. It makes more sense how it is bullying in that context.
Edit: Also, to be clear, I’m not arguing against this feature, just explaining how it can be used for bullying.
Aren’t Mastodon instances maintained by volunteers in their spare time? I can’t imagine how they manage to continue moderating it once there are ten thousand or millions of users on it. At least the moderators on Twitter were paid. It was their job. I think people massively underestimate how much work this is.
Most instances will stop allowing new accounts to be created when it reaches a certain size that gets difficult to manage (hardware and moderating-wise). They self-regulate that way, and instances that get out of control will just be defederated by the others.
That’s true, but I don’t think we’ll see that sort of rapid growth on Mastodon. At least not for a while. For now, Bluesky is sucking up most of the users seeking Twitter alternatives. I imagine that the growth will be slow enough that it’ll be easy enough for mod teams to scale up to.
Good. I get why they were originally resistant to it, but fringe, outlier situations can be dealt with when you have actual mods maintaining things. The reason quote-retweeting was used so heavily for bullying on Twitter was because there were no repercussions for it, and Twitter never enforced their bullying rules for the practice. Mastodon instances have their own mods enforcing their own rules, to a much better degree than Twitter ever has. While the potential for bullying still exists, it’s far easier to mitigate on Mastodon.
I’m so confused. How would quoting someone’s words bully them? Maybe I’m not getting something. You’re talking like I say something on mastodon, you quote what I said, with me attributed to the quote, and that bullys me? Or am I missing something? I feel like I’m missing something.
(This is an example.)
Get a load of this idiot! They can’t imagine how quoting someone can be bullying!
Haha, what a bozo! Now we’re going to relentlessly shit-talk them in this sub-thread that OP has no ability to moderate nor stem the flow of vitriol from.
(Further continuing the example.)
Omg howd you do that without a quote feature remove images from mastodon
The quote isnt bullying at all. Its your own post using words like idiot ect. Thats abusing which again has nothing to do with the post below it. A mundane version of that post wouldnt be as controversial and most likely be roundly ignored.
Might as well just remove the ability of people to post. That will fix it
You have to think of it from a micro blogging perspective. Imagine I have a ton of followers and have created a culture of them attacking anyone I attack. It makes more sense how it is bullying in that context.
Edit: Also, to be clear, I’m not arguing against this feature, just explaining how it can be used for bullying.
Again, it’s the attacking which is the simple rule breaking and it’s regardless of how. Good god talk about over analysis.
Break it more than once and account suspended.
Aren’t Mastodon instances maintained by volunteers in their spare time? I can’t imagine how they manage to continue moderating it once there are ten thousand or millions of users on it. At least the moderators on Twitter were paid. It was their job. I think people massively underestimate how much work this is.
Most instances will stop allowing new accounts to be created when it reaches a certain size that gets difficult to manage (hardware and moderating-wise). They self-regulate that way, and instances that get out of control will just be defederated by the others.
That’s true, but I don’t think we’ll see that sort of rapid growth on Mastodon. At least not for a while. For now, Bluesky is sucking up most of the users seeking Twitter alternatives. I imagine that the growth will be slow enough that it’ll be easy enough for mod teams to scale up to.
Also mastodon instances not named mastodon.social are still relatively small.