• ubergeek@lemmy.today
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      1 year ago

      Element/matrix aren’t part of the fediverse, either. It doesn’t speak AP.

      • namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev
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        1 year ago

        Are we claiming now that Activity Pub is the only protocol that we can use for the fediverse? I think XMPP is roughly 30 years old at this point, and I’m pretty sure Activity Pub is much younger than that. I could be wrong though.

        But regardless, I don’t see why Activity Pub has to be the only protocol we accept to be considered a part of the fediverse. It’s not even like different AP implementations talk to each other all that well. My understanding is that Mastodon doesn’t federate that well with Lemmy, and I haven’t seen Loops or Pixelfed on Lemmy yet either.

        I’d be happy to be corrected on any of this though, I haven’t looked too closely into exactly how AP works or how it’s supposed to interoperate with different applications.

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        1 year ago

        the author literally picked random projects from github tagged as matrix, without considering their prevalence or whether they are actually maintained etc.

        if you actually look at % of impacted clients, it’s tiny.

        meanwhile, it is very unclear that any sidechannel attack on a libolm based client is practical over the network (which is why we didn’t fix this years ago). After all, the limited primitives are commented on in the readme and https://github.com/matrix-org/olm/issues/3 since day 1.

        From your link.