Yeah see the US doesn’t need Ukraine’s help! Look how little we need their help we are so strong! Wow and Zelensky is just so difficult to deal with.

Hey can you actually help us out though? We are kind of fucked.

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    It is better Ukraine doesn’t get involved in this shit show in the near east. I support Ukraine, but will end that if they get all buddy buddy with Israel. Seriously, fuck Israel.

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      Iran has been aiding Russia this whole war. Ukraine being hostile to Iran is because of that.

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        Ukraine imposed sanctions on iran in 2007. The west been sanctionning Iran for decades . You are asking Iran to do nothing and die slowly. If ukraine is willing to negociate with Russia who is the invader , they can with Iran too

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          I am not asking Iran to do anything. I am saying Ukraine has reasons to be hostile towards Iran that have nothing to do with Israel. Everyone involved in any of this are terrible when you scrutinize them, fuck all of them.

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            If Ukraine can do peace talks with Russia the invader that it never trusted. They can do the same with Iran . This won’t push Iran farther away from Russia , it does the opposite

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              And this is all beyond the point I was trying to make, which was Ukraine has reasons be hostile towards Iran beyond “Da israel controls them”. Also, look how well negotiation with Russia is going for them.

              Anyways, since you keep talking beyond my point, and trying to have a different conversation, I am just gonna turn off notifications for you.

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        That is understandable from their point of view. Think about it. Russia is not freezing them out like everyone else that is on the US’ dick. They give them a commercial option to sell and improve their drones. It is the US’ fault, Iran is doing what is in their interest.

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      I certainly think that any Ukrainian who has experienced resisting the ground offensive from russia would be genuinely shocked to see what the “war” in Gaza actually looks like moment to moment.

      The media pretends they are both wars when one war is genuinely a full scale war and the other is the slow, open air prison extermination of Palestinians with tanks, mortars, assault rifles, starvation and denial of basic neccessities.

      If you are in the trenches in Ukraine, you are actually resisting a real, existential force threatening to overwhelm with columns of tanks and a seemingly unstoppable malice of industry. The terrible reality in Israel is that this is what Israelis tell themselves as they commit Genocide and it is used cynically as an invitation both there and in the US into willing blindness about the consequences of our choices and our fear unbridled.

      If who Israel is fighting in Gaza had tanks they would have only been ethnically cleansed faster, that is the essential difference here.

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      mehhh, Irans been lobbing drones on them for years and are aligned with the cnuts tryin to destroy them. They’re also looking for Mirage fighter jet donations from one of the ME nations they’re helping.