• Carl N. Yon@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Why would you suggest piefed when it has so much biased hard-code in it’s database?

    It is clear that Rimu has forced his personal viewpoint and ideology into his code. Despite the claims there has been no evidence that this is the case for Lemmy.

    He has coded in deliberatly misleading error messages when you try to upload images he doesn’t like

    • You cannot cast a vote on PieFed if you’ve made 0 replies, 0 posts, AND your username is 8 characters long
    • When a reply is created, from anywhere, that only contains the word “this”, the comment is dropped
    • Every user (remote or local) has an “attitude” which is calculated as follows: (upvotes cast - downvotes cast) / (upvotes + downvotes). If your “attitude” is < 0.0 you can’t downvote. Again there is no mention of this anywhere but deep within his biased-code
    • Every account has a Social Credit Score. If your account has less than 100 Social Credit Score and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do. Your Social Credit Score is calculated as upvotes earned - downvotes earned aka Reddit Karma. If your reputation is at -10 you also cannot downvote, and you can’t create new DMs. It also flags your account automatically if your reputation is to low. Echo-chamber achieved!
    • If you use em dashes your account is flagged to the admin, more like 1984-fed
    • if you try to comment a .gif … you fail because the code lord Rimu doesn’t like it
    • Rimu has turned the block into an instance wide shadowban again without telling anyone
    • He has hardcoded which instances are allowed and which arent
    • He has hardcoded links to his ideology into the sidebar
    • He vindictively targeted a single user with code

    The code review can be found here

    Maybe someone should do a code review for lemmy to see how those tankies have influenced it.

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      You know, when people say piefed is like reddit, I don’t know if they realize it’s exactly like reddit.

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        I don’t see how those things in total make it like Reddit. For one, Reddit is overrun by AI slop in many areas. Piefed actively tries to mitigate it.

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          Sure, but going down this list, most seems arbitrary and not based on data to mitigate slop bots.

          Social credit scores are why I bailed on reddit. Not karma, but their “Contributor quality score” that demands people grind comments to keep the account alive.

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            Social credit scores are why I bailed on reddit. Not karma, but their “Contributor quality score” that demands people grind comments to keep the account alive.

            I already addressed this regarding Piefed here.

            Trolls/spammers etc are serious problems on sites like Lemmy and Piefed (and on Reddit). If you’re a new account and you’ve managed to get -100 reputation that quickly, it’s not a good sign. If and as the Fediverse grows, instance owners are going to need more observation tools to catch this type of stuff.

            Whilst having +++ karma is obviously not worth note, a new account on -100 is.

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      Sounds like hell for someone with problems to put thoughts in words and/or uncommon opinions. You either go blend with the mass or die.

      Also, could I use my current lemmy account to upvote my each pie comment, to get better score in few minutes? Kinda fragile for cheats.

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        1 day ago

        To be fair, people can already use alts to upvote on the fediverse right now. It’s just obvious when they do so because of public voting, so doing so normally gets an account banned.

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        You could but they disregard votes from any instance that doesn’t fit the glorious leader’s opinion.

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      Every account has a Social Credit Score.

      Keep in mind ostentatious posturing about alleged belief in free speech e.g. hyperbolic use of terms like “Social Credit Score” or repetition of common copytext/keywords “echo chamber” is not universally perceived as a good thing.

      If you’ve ever lived in a country where people understand the value of free speech (without constant tedious self-aggrandization on this topic) this stuff comes off as childish.

      When I say “understanding the value of free speech”, I mean the understanding that free speech includes the ability to choose your moderation policies depending on context.

      He has hardcoded links to his ideology into the sidebar

      Again, framing this issue as “promotion of ideology” is not going to fly.

      Believe it or not, but having a sidebar with “Misinformation & disinformation” is not as big of a thing as you think it is. I would even argue that “COVID skeptics” wouldn’t give a shit about it because they actually understand the meaning of the term “promotion of ideology”.

      You’re welcome to assume I am misinformed, I hate free speech or I am being malicious. Whatever works, I am just sharing a different perspective (from someone who lived in the US and does not find American-style freedom polemics to be in the least convincing).

    • Skavau@piefed.social
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      You cannot cast a vote on PieFed if you’ve made 0 replies, 0 posts, AND your username is 8 characters long

      Okay. So? This is in part anti-spam measures. It’s very specific, but how many users do you imagine this applies to in practice?

      When a reply is created, from anywhere, that only contains the word “this”, the comment is dropped

      Piefed.social only. Toggleable off.

      Every user (remote or local) has an “attitude” which is calculated as follows: (upvotes cast - downvotes cast) / (upvotes + downvotes). If your “attitude” is < 0.0 you can’t downvote. Again there is no mention of this anywhere but deep within his biased-code

      Yes, this is to mitigate mass-downvoting. Why is this inherently a problem to you?

      Every account has a Social Credit Score. If your account has less than 100 Social Credit Score and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do. Your Social Credit Score is calculated as upvotes earned - downvotes earned aka Reddit Karma. If your reputation is at -10 you also cannot downvote, and you can’t create new DMs. It also flags your account automatically if your reputation is to low. Echo-chamber achieved!

      Trolls/spammers etc are serious problems on sites like Lemmy and Piefed. If you’re a new account and you’ve managed to get -100 reputation that quickly, it’s not a good sign. If and as the Fediverse grows, instance owners are going to need more observation tools to catch this type of stuff.

      If you use em dashes your account is flagged to the admin, more like 1984-fed

      AI detection tools. But I’ve seen a lot of AI posters right now caught through this. use of the em-dash is very much a sign, unfortunately. It doesn’t ban them by the way. It just flags new accounts doing it to admins. So? Admins can turn this off.

      if you try to comment a .gif … you fail because the code lord Rimu doesn’t like it

      Can be turned off at the instance level.

      Rimu has turned the block into an instance wide shadowban again without telling anyone

      No. If every instance was Piefed, you simply wouldn’t be able to reply to anyone who has blocked you. “Reply” is essentially faded out. The difference is that Lemmy doesn’t implement the block function in the same way, so Piefed just throws out replies by blocked users to the person who has blocked them coming from Lemmy. That’s the mismatch at play here.

      If you can somehow still reply via a Piefed instance, it is bugged and not working as intended.

      He vindictively targeted a single user with code

      This has been removed now, and it wasn’t “vindictive” in purpose at all.

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        Yea sure, if it wasn’t called out how long would those malicious code stayed in?

        Thanks for agreeing that there is clear bias inside the piefed code. Who knows if you can acually keep those setting or if a new “update” won’t revert the changes back to what he wants you to see or not see. In addition how do users know any of this? Why is he even doing this to begin with? Are you an alt of the glorious leader?

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          What code are you referring to here? I addressed a number of grievances. Bias to what? Dealing with AI? Not liking it when a user substitutes “th” with another letter, making it annoying to read?

          Why would an update revert out a change that has already been removed at core?

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      All that is optional and can be turned off in Admin settings.

      Not to mention you’re exaggerating a loot.

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        Glad you agree that Rimu is putting his own beliefs and ideology into the piefed code, any chance you know of similar issues with the lemmy code? Not if there isn’t any documentation and how do the users know if the social credit score is active on their instance? He intentionally makes it hard to know if your image or comment even applies, it is like this bizarre shadowban for anyone the glorious leader doesn’t like.

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          So everyone is clear your an alt-account of someone from lemmygrad or Hexbear.

          You only seem to be active every few months in very specific posts where your beloved instance pro-Russia propaganda mill is at threat or you can bad mouth people who you don’t agree with.

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          Again… this is literally just piefed.social you are takling about here.

          Rimu is very anti-4chan, sure.