And the fediverse can work more or less exactly the same way for those people.

People want to go where the people are. Once people have found a spot it’s extremely difficult to peel them away to another spot, because not many people are there. That’s the real problem in getting people embracing the fediverse.

Email is simple enough for people. This is no different.
The real problem is the chicken and egg inertia of crowds.

Absolutely disagree
Social media is inherently public. Everything here should always be completely public. Nobody should ever think anything they do here is private at all.

My private social media is Signal. All my real world friends use it for our personal communications.

Not quite. These aren’t “free speech” rules.

If a company, organization, or community doesn’t want to have certain kinds speech, they can remove anything they don’t like. Disney can’t be required to host comments about how Mr. Wheeler was right to drive on the sidewalk killing people. They couldn’t be sued for it if they did. But that’s already included in 230.

The only important thing that’s changed between the mid '90s and now, is that sites actively select and push user created speech onto people who didn’t choose to see it. Speech that wasn’t from a community or user they choose to follow. If that speach leads to harmful behaviour, then sites should be able to be held accountable for the harms.

That’s all I’m saying. Promoting user content is fundamentally different than hosting it. Hosting needs to be protected as it has been. Promoting does carry a new level of responsibility. Censorship (when not the government) is still well within an organization’s rights.

Section 230 needs an update. It needs to be made clear that hosing speech is not a liability.
“Recommending” speech with a black box algorithm that the user can’t control or select IS a liability.

The article explains they show reduced cancer risk themselves.

Always assume nothing online is ever really deleted.
You and the admins can see what you flag as ‘delete’, because it’s always still there.

ActivityPub isn’t the only way to be federated. Email is federated. Email isn’t ActivityPub. Matrix is no different.

ActivityPub is only one of a number of federated protocols.
One notably unsuited to instant messaging.

share the info natively outside the platform.

I’m not even sure that makes sense.
Federating is based on protocols not platforms. And what does it mean to share natively if not using the protocol?

Waiting for pizza

But we already have tacos.
If you say “Tacos are coming soon”. And we already have tacos. I’d say “What do you mean? Tacos are already here. Do we need more tacos?”

That’s what I mean.
The headline is a lie.

ActivityPub isn’t the only way to federate.
Matrix is federating the same way email does. Anyone can spin up their own server. And if they want anyone can spin up their own software. That’s what federation is. Different servers agreeing on how to communicate with each other.

I thought we already had Matrix

First: your comment appears to be a reply to them not me. I think that’s where the confusion came from.

Second: You seem to be conflating listening to ideas with supporting them.

Third: Blocking places with bad ideas doesn’t silence the people there or eliminate their ideas. It contributes to their isolation and echo chamber. Often more then yours. You in fact end up helping make them worse. Which of course is worse for everyone.

The former often feels like the later.
Even more so when you’re not used to it.

Building an echo chamber isn’t something done intentionally. Well… Sometimes it is.
It’s most often created by avoiding people you find annoying, toxic, etc. As long as you keep up that reasoning you eventually only interact with people who mostly agree with you. You’re blinding yourself to counter opinions. The definition of an echo chamber.

It comes down to two fundamental conceptions of what the Fediverse should be.

One is a single account, all access, everything does anything any other thing does, kind of vision.

The other is a, we do our thing, you do yours, we can do together where appropriate, kind of vision.

I fall into the later. I have no problem with multiple accounts for different kinds of content and entertainment. You may fall closer to the former.