I am sure the terminal IDEs are great. I did used to play around with vim myself, and still use it for editing config files. I have had some success with Jet Brains as well. It’s a solid product.

I don’t really have the energy it takes to configure and learn all the stuff that’s needed for a terminal only setup these days. I guess I am just not as discerning as you are. I might try a ready made solution like LazyVim.

You’re the one who decided to attack me. The one who keeps coming back. So I could ask you the same question.

I was coding before AI. I used to be skeptical too. But sure put words in my mouth. Cunt.

Yeah editors are largely a matter of taste for some people. I won’t say VSCode is perfectly to my taste. The issue is it’s easy to use and works with just about every language, tool, and environment I need it to. Like I would probably prefer Zed or Neovim in some areas. Zed won’t work on one of my machines properly for some unknown reason. Neovim would require too much tweaking and learning before it could be useful. Even then I couldn’t guarantee I would actually be as productive as VSCode since not all the same tools are available. It might not work in every project I end up working on.

Essentially I have given up perfection in pursuit of convenience. If you have the time, patience, and the certainly of what you are working on then other IDEs and tooling can be much more tailored to you.

You know I actually used to think like you once. When I only wanted to be a professional code monkey. I am glad I don’t think like that anymore. There are better things to be than someone who’s job is just to write code. Code is after all a means to an end. Now when I write code it’s with an actual goal in mind.

Writing code is something that’s largely being automated by LLMs and AI. Some will still be needed, the best and the brightest of programmers, but I don’t think that’s you. Any who go learn cyber security or AI or something. You would make more money there anyway. If not your going to have to learn to work with LLMs, and to fix their code. Cause there sure aren’t going to be many programming jobs in the future that don’t involve using them.

Yeah pretty much. Wait until you hear about termux, screen, or byobu.

See you around.

In neovim you can have a terminal inside a buffer. So you can have a terminal and your code open side by side like you would in a modern IDE, or emacs for that matter.

Also good luck being unemployed in a few years!

I am not the one who looks like a fool here. Who is the one actually getting up votes from people other than themselves?

Bro who do you think your talking to? It already is like that for me for programming languages. I’ve certainly programmed in enough of them. The more likely option is that you will be working in an already established code base and have to use what they are already using or want you to use. You sound like a hobby programmer. That or someone at a company using microservices for everything.

I am a PhD student doing stuff about cyber security and AI. So no programming is not my primary field anymore.

I am kind of surprised someone who’s primary job is programming has such problems using a tool like VSCode that’s supposed to be usable by even beginners.

I’ve used Eclipse, Jet Brains, Visual Studio, Visual Studio Code, vim, Cursor, and more for programming. I’ve played around with even more besides that. I don’t owe loyalty to any of these. Hence me having no issue with you using Jet Brains. It’s saved my ass a few times as well. That doesn’t make it perfect anymore than any of the others are perfect.

Who started attacking who here?

I have been programming in some capacity for about 12 or 13 years now. Let’s not argue seniority here.

VSCode and Visual Studio aren’t from the same code base. They aren’t commonly used for the same things, or on the same platforms. Do you think they are comparable because they have similar names?

Not understanding how to use the thing doesn’t make it bad. It’s no wonder your confused if you think it’s an alternative to Visual Studio.

So as I thought you don’t have a real point. You just came here to call the popular thing bad for not fitting your tastes.

I actually like JetBrains too. It isn’t mutually exclusive to only like one or the other.

You haven’t made a single real argument either.

Here let me make mine:

VSCode works with a huge range of languages, is very flexible and extendable, and has great support for remote development, development in containers, and even has cloud hosted IDEs based on it (Eclipse Che anyone?). Despite being web based it’s somehow faster/lighter than JetBrains. It’s also less expensive with fully open source versions available.

Edit: also I wasn’t being condescending until people started attacking me for an incredibly uncontroversial opinion. Your the one being condescending here.

Yet VSCode is one of the most popular IDEs with many other IDEs being forks of it.

I am amazed this is even remotely controversial. It’s one of the few products they make that’s actually good. Just tells you how far off the real world most Lemmy users are lol.

I am not going to argue if it is better or worse than vim. I actually use both; they both have strengths and weaknesses imo. I use them for different tasks. I will say though that VSCode is extremely popular for programming and for good reasons. It’s a good product, one of the best things Microsoft make.

Out of interest: why vim and not neovim?

VSCode