The second paragraph could be from any game dev POV reading reviews of their game. I think it’s the nature of the beast.
Actually I’d love that. Paying for the product and then reviewing it would be a massive upgrade from what I’m talking about, which is like the opposite-- paying nothing, demonstrating entitlement about the whole thing, and barely commenting. Almost like they believe CC’s are robo-humans posting content because of some internal programming, and don’t need any feedback or appreciation. Hell, a critical or bitchy review would mean someone was paying attention!
I’m also a tourist, as you said, not having a particular community I routinely visit or maintain.
The fact that you took the trouble to thoughtfully write all that suggests to me that you’re not a tourist in this case. And really, tourism itself isn’t bad. Readers and upvoters are always needed, and commenters outside of various obvious situations (like an “AskLemmy” post) are something of a luxury. My complaint(s) is moreso about more toxic situations. I’ll give you an example:
Maybe 6mos ago I created some kind of scratch post that included backstory on the content, some extra research, and included a couple links where people could find more. One of those happened to be a focused, cleaned-up google link that would specifically fetch image content. Some commenter then weighed in with ‘hur, hur, so now we’re including google searches? (as if we didn’t know how to do those already?)’
I replied that the link was handier that it might first appear (for example, some searches can take several tries to perfect), and that I wrote the whole post by hand and didn’t really need that kind of comment. They seemed shocked and offended by my reply, as if it was their gosh-given right to dump on whatever they felt like on, and the convo turned negative. Which I think touches on what you said above.
Politeness for me is part of good netiquette, and I (used to) expect a certain positivity when it comes to the general FV, but I do think there’s a major swath of users here who’ve normalised being obnoxious content-gobblers, essentially. That it just doesn’t occur to them to be any other way, even when an author / maintainer / etc is directly involved in wherever they might be being toxic users.
That said, I think a big part of the whole equation stems from the internet being like a giant, diverse box of free content everywhere, which arguably encourages a spoiled, entitled mindset for some. Now I don’t want to overstate all that, and I agree that the state of the world isn’t helping, but I can’t just ignore this stuff, either. So I kvetch…
Interesting comments.
Actually I’d love that. Paying for the product and then reviewing it would be a massive upgrade from what I’m talking about, which is like the opposite-- paying nothing, demonstrating entitlement about the whole thing, and barely commenting. Almost like they believe CC’s are robo-humans posting content because of some internal programming, and don’t need any feedback or appreciation. Hell, a critical or bitchy review would mean someone was paying attention!
The fact that you took the trouble to thoughtfully write all that suggests to me that you’re not a tourist in this case. And really, tourism itself isn’t bad. Readers and upvoters are always needed, and commenters outside of various obvious situations (like an “AskLemmy” post) are something of a luxury. My complaint(s) is moreso about more toxic situations. I’ll give you an example:
Maybe 6mos ago I created some kind of scratch post that included backstory on the content, some extra research, and included a couple links where people could find more. One of those happened to be a focused, cleaned-up google link that would specifically fetch image content. Some commenter then weighed in with ‘hur, hur, so now we’re including google searches? (as if we didn’t know how to do those already?)’
I replied that the link was handier that it might first appear (for example, some searches can take several tries to perfect), and that I wrote the whole post by hand and didn’t really need that kind of comment. They seemed shocked and offended by my reply, as if it was their gosh-given right to dump on whatever they felt like on, and the convo turned negative. Which I think touches on what you said above.
Politeness for me is part of good netiquette, and I (used to) expect a certain positivity when it comes to the general FV, but I do think there’s a major swath of users here who’ve normalised being obnoxious content-gobblers, essentially. That it just doesn’t occur to them to be any other way, even when an author / maintainer / etc is directly involved in wherever they might be being toxic users.
That said, I think a big part of the whole equation stems from the internet being like a giant, diverse box of free content everywhere, which arguably encourages a spoiled, entitled mindset for some. Now I don’t want to overstate all that, and I agree that the state of the world isn’t helping, but I can’t just ignore this stuff, either. So I kvetch…