Not that these things didn’t happen to a significant extent, but it seems like a lot of .ee users and visitors, while willing to hang out at the place, were moreso just willing to soak up the content without putting in much effort to help make the place work.
Blaming the community for that is not fair. It takes only a few rotten fruit to spoil the whole basket. Even if 99% of your userbase are model netizens who are supportive and only make positive contributions, the whole system can be brought down by a few dedicate trolls/losers.
We need to build effective filtering mechanisms to get rid of abuse/spam and we need to maybe bring back the idea of Web of Trust. It’s too easy to create an account and start polluting the fediverse.
Is every entry on a ibis an as:Article object? Could it be generalized for any type of Linked Data? This would make it possible to not only have a federated wikipedia but the whole wikidata project.
I’d guess that whoever would be willing to give you copies of legal documents just to join an “exclusive” instance would also be okay with contributing a few bucks per month to pay for its costs.
Why do you want to run an instance for that many people? Do you have 1000 people already, or is that just a number that you decided to work with? Why would people be interested in joining an instance with less functionality than the bigger ones?
Also: does it have to be Mastodon, or would you consider other alternatives? Pleroma and GoToSocial would be a lot easier to manage.
Hey, just wanted to thank you for bringing up the issue with the portal at alien.top. I updated both the portal and the lemmy instance now, should be working again.
The main issue for newcomers is the paradox of choice, and unless you are some exceptional case you’ll end up clicking more than one of the options and be facing a wall of options to choose from.
Also, what is the use case for recommending Emissary?
I will take a look at the login issue. Seems like I need to update alien.top to a more recent version of Lemmy.
If you already have a Fedi account and just want to help with the community mapping, please take a look at https://fediverser.network/. The “fediversed” instances (like alien.top) can update their own mapping based on changes from fediverser.network, so any on one place can be used by admins elsewhere.
Nothing can be easier than going to https://portal.alien.top/, signing up with your Reddit account and seeing your account already subscribed to communities corresponding to your favorite subreddits.
I agree with almost all of your points, but I don’t think that it’s okay to normalize guilt by association, and I call them “the mob” because I see these calls for defederation less as a real concern for their safety and more of instrument to enforce compliance.
I think there is a spectrum between what you did (you were mod until you no longer thought that the pain of dealing with Reddit was worth it or morally justified) and someone who sticks around as a mod of 50+ subreddits because they see as an instrument of control, or someone that keeps running a big Mastodon instance despite financial struggles; and my point is to understand where most people lie.
Just because you made the mistake buying into a shitty walled garden like iOS doesn’t mean it doesn’t work for other people.
So much misfires in one single sentence. Impressive.
“you made the mistake”: I am not talking my phone, but from other people that I want to talk to.
“shitty walled garden like iOS”: I may not like, and you may not like, but there are 20-30% of the whole world that to do prefer to have a phone that gives them a walled garden and gives them some peace of mind. But instead of accepting that other might have different values than you, you try to dismiss their values as secondary to your cause and you pass your values as something that should be universal. Are you noticing the pattern here?
doesn’t mean it doesn’t work for other people: if someone on Android can not have video calls via XMPP with someone on iOS, then no, it doesn’t work for neither of them.
I see a pattern here of you ignoring reality
You want to keep believing that your solution is superior and that the problem is with everyone else that keeps choosing the wrong things? Fine, I will not be able to convince you otherwise. But to keep being presented with actual experience from other people and respond by saying that “they are ignoring reality”? This is just silly.
My “axe to grind” is not against mods. My “axe to grind” is against Small Fedi. I can elaborate more later if you want, but now I need to get back to work…
I legitimately did it because I had been a member of the community for years and really felt passionate about keeping its standards and making sure it remained safe for the community.
Would you do it for a community you didn’t care about?
Do you think that doing something because you “really felt passionate about it” is “selfless”?
Blaming the community for that is not fair. It takes only a few rotten fruit to spoil the whole basket. Even if 99% of your userbase are model netizens who are supportive and only make positive contributions, the whole system can be brought down by a few dedicate trolls/losers.
We need to build effective filtering mechanisms to get rid of abuse/spam and we need to maybe bring back the idea of Web of Trust. It’s too easy to create an account and start polluting the fediverse.
Maybe we can take this as an opportunity to understand the importance of separating “instance for groups” and “instance for users”?
I’m downvoting because this community doesn’t feel like the right place for any type of meta-discussion.
An oversimplification: wikidata is a graph database where people edit semantic triples (subject, predicate, object) instead of text articles.
One could argue that the Fediverse is itself a graph database that anyone could edit, though current implementations are mostly focused on taking this abstract data and putting a usable shell that resembles specific applications.
Is every entry on a ibis an
as:Article
object? Could it be generalized for any type of Linked Data? This would make it possible to not only have a federated wikipedia but the whole wikidata project.I’d guess that whoever would be willing to give you copies of legal documents just to join an “exclusive” instance would also be okay with contributing a few bucks per month to pay for its costs.
Why do you want to run an instance for that many people? Do you have 1000 people already, or is that just a number that you decided to work with? Why would people be interested in joining an instance with less functionality than the bigger ones?
Also: does it have to be Mastodon, or would you consider other alternatives? Pleroma and GoToSocial would be a lot easier to manage.
Hey, just wanted to thank you for bringing up the issue with the portal at alien.top. I updated both the portal and the lemmy instance now, should be working again.
This is totally a display of form over function.
The main issue for newcomers is the paradox of choice, and unless you are some exceptional case you’ll end up clicking more than one of the options and be facing a wall of options to choose from.
Also, what is the use case for recommending Emissary?
I will take a look at the login issue. Seems like I need to update alien.top to a more recent version of Lemmy.
If you already have a Fedi account and just want to help with the community mapping, please take a look at https://fediverser.network/. The “fediversed” instances (like alien.top) can update their own mapping based on changes from fediverser.network, so any on one place can be used by admins elsewhere.
Nothing can be easier than going to https://portal.alien.top/, signing up with your Reddit account and seeing your account already subscribed to communities corresponding to your favorite subreddits.
I am not talking about people like you that get involved in the communities they enjoy. I am talking about those that seem to be dedicated to a personal mission.
Yeah, I didn’t get this part either. I will take a look later to see if I can turn the this into a more traditional web app.
I agree with almost all of your points, but I don’t think that it’s okay to normalize guilt by association, and I call them “the mob” because I see these calls for defederation less as a real concern for their safety and more of instrument to enforce compliance.
I think there is a spectrum between what you did (you were mod until you no longer thought that the pain of dealing with Reddit was worth it or morally justified) and someone who sticks around as a mod of 50+ subreddits because they see as an instrument of control, or someone that keeps running a big Mastodon instance despite financial struggles; and my point is to understand where most people lie.
So much misfires in one single sentence. Impressive.
You want to keep believing that your solution is superior and that the problem is with everyone else that keeps choosing the wrong things? Fine, I will not be able to convince you otherwise. But to keep being presented with actual experience from other people and respond by saying that “they are ignoring reality”? This is just silly.
No, I missed it before.
My “axe to grind” is not against mods. My “axe to grind” is against Small Fedi. I can elaborate more later if you want, but now I need to get back to work…
I’d say that they are the same thing, just in different contexts. But okay, if I wasn’t clear it’s on me to fix it.
Would you do it for a community you didn’t care about?
Do you think that doing something because you “really felt passionate about it” is “selfless”?