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  • The biggest share of viewers watching Eurovision was recorded in Finland (93%), Sweden (86%), Norway (83%) and Denmark (79%)

    Share of viewers seems like a potentially problematic statistic to base comparisons on. Is it share of everyone watching linear TV? Do people still watch linear TV in parts of Europe outside of big live events? Percentage change in absolute viewership from last year would have been a better indicator.

    Anyway, I usually either go to or host Eurovision parties. This year the whole thing went by unnoticed. It seems nobody watched it, and nobody talked about it.


  • If I had the skills and time to develop a whole new federated platform this is absolutely be what I would work towards. Sadly I have neither.

    OsmAnd is a navigation app, it wouldn’t be the right place to start.

    My best idea for the easiest possible integration would be to allow for OSM IDs to serve as attachments to posts in the Fediverse (such as mastodon). The lowest effort would be to simply attach ID codes as hashtags. An example of a mastodon post could be:

    Impressive, but a little tacky. Worth a visit. 9/10 #OSM #43768260

    Here a bot would search for posts with the hashtag #OSM, and include posts with valid numerical OSM IDs as a separate hash tag. Scoring could be included in the text, and be flexible (2/5, 7/10, 87/100), with clients reading the reviews optionally converting them into any form of indicator.

    The challenges of this approach (that I have thought of) would be:

    1. Adding the tags would need to be automatized somehow. Mastodon’s share functionality could be used to integrate the functionality directly into apps and maps, but this would not work across the Fediverse. OSM IDs are not generally easy to find, so users posting in the format manually is unrealistic. Ideally apps like CoMaps would allow for Fediverse sign-in directly in the app.
    2. Content visibility is a challenge unless some centralized service is tagged. Adding a centralized service would add further problems. A solution would be to make the service dependant on tags.pub for guaranteed hashtag visibility.
    3. Moderation is another challenge, especially if there is no centralized authority. Mastodon is doing work towards shared blocklists on the Fediverse which might help in this respect. Reviews from users blocked by major blocklists would be rendered invisible.
    4. Reviews viewed from the Fediverse wouldn’t automatically link back to the OSM location, leaving Fediverse users with lacking context. Using a form of attachment rather than hashtags could solve this issue, but it would require more development.

    The benefits would be that the federated infrastructure doesn’t really need to be developed much - we would just need people to agree on the standard and find ways to display reviews.

    An app to post reviews making use of specialized content fields would probably be nice, but I fear anything that requires additional accounts or apps would deter people. Being able to sign in to existing Fediverse accounts inside of map apps and posting reviews directly seems like a better solution.

    I’m sure there are many people with more knowledge than me on the matter though, and some of them are probably working on this already. As I said, I’m just daydreaming. :)


  • I dream of an integration between the Fediverse and OSM, where Mastodon or similar accounts can be used to leave comments on nodes in OSM. Of course it would present a lot of technical challenges, but I feel like it should be possible to get it right.

    I have seen Mangrove before, but even with all the goodwill I have for finding an alternative platform for reviews it just does not make sense to me at all. The closest restaurant I could find on the platform is 800 km away from me. Without OSM integration it just seems futile, and without ActivityPub I just don’t see myself contributing content.

    I am probably wrong to be critical. It’s seems to be an interesting project attempting to provide an open source solution for the biggest missing feature I identify in the open web at the moment. But right now I find it impossible to use.




  • cabbage@piefed.socialtoYUROP@feddit.orgThe radical left
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    Valid point. A well-documented human bias is also that we tend to think everything was better back when we were young - all ageing post-war age groups think society worked best when they were in their 20s. It’s natural that some people bass their political belief on this sense of nostalgia.


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    Ah, yeah, sorry, I didn’t read your comment carefully enough. Misread it as being a point about constants through change in terms of understanding ideology, and that conservatives are becoming something new that they were not before. My bad! It has been a long day.

    Totally agree with your point.


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    EDIT: I misread the comment above, which I completely agree with. I ended up writing a reply about the dangers of allowing the meaning of concepts to change along with dominant narratives. Not really relevant to the discussion, but keeping it below because why not.


    I understand this argument from an American point of view - if I were conservative I certainly wouldn’t brand myself as such if I were American.

    I have two counterarguments. First, this is a form of surrender, where we accept that the word has lost its meaning and we no longer have the vocabulary to talk about conservativism in its original sense. Language is essential for thinking, and by destroying the language and the words we use to understand concepts the ruling classes can keep us from understanding them at all. Everything becomes meaningless. Fascists, conservatives, nazis, libertarians, libarals, centrists all become the same as concepts are blurred and lose their meaning to the point where we cannot think of anything any more. This type of rhetorical class warfare is common in the US - there has been active efforts to destroy any word associated with socialism for a hundred years now. I think we should insist on the meaning of words and their distinctions because we should insist on thinking. The two are, fundamentally, the same thing.

    My second counterargument is that this guy on the train was German. Europe is not America, we don’t want to import your stupid politics. We are better off on our own. Call this a conservative argument if you will.


  • cabbage@piefed.socialtoYUROP@feddit.orgThe radical left
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    Labels are useless as their meanings keep changing across time and contexts, and as soon as you adapt one for yourself people will either resent you for your choice of label or for not being holy enough (you’re a progressive but you believe people should be allowed to own guns and you honestly think free trade isn’t killing the planet and you believe in death penalty? Blah blah blah).

    It’s more useful to think in terms of ideological cleavages. On the scale of authoritarianism to personal freedoms you believe in LGBTQ+ and women’s rights to control their own bodies. Properly vetted immigration could mean many things but is generally indicative of being on the right. Believing in death penalty and emphasizong strong military further pushes you to the right on this scale. Sounds like somewhere centre right on that dimension.

    Along the economic dimension you believe in taxing the rich and providing universal welfare, placing you left of centre. “Lower taxes if possible” I guess then goes for low income folks, and is very much in line with taxing the rich in a society like the US - the “if possible” is key, as it seems you’re willing to prioritize the wellbeing of your neighbours. Investment in education and science is also left on this dimension.

    Another useful dimension is secular/religious, where you appear to be pretty secular. I guess that explains your opinions about abortion and LGBTQ+ in spite of being more on the authoritarian spectrum, as the religious parts of conservativism seems less important to you.

    If the word “conservative” hadn’t been ruined I’d say you’re closer to a conservative than a progressive. But in the political climate of current-day America I guess you’re a dangerous far-left radical.


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    I really don’t think this is an accurate description of what an average ageing conservative German is.

    Conservative means what it means - people who want to conserve rather than change, and are comfortable with how things are and, in their opinion, have always been. It’s a naïve world view based on a lacking understanding of how society changes. The people who hold it tend to be of privileged groups who can afford to be blind to injustice. That doesn’t mean they are fans of it - their privilege has just left them with a blind spot, and when injustice is pointed out to them they tend to blame those showing it to them for creating it in the first place. Again, they are not brilliant people, but they’re generally not evil, just a bit dumb.

    When American self-proclaimed conservatives storm the Capitol building and make an active effort to fuck up their country as much as humanly possible they are not conservative in the same way some Günther riding the Deutsche Bahn is conservative. Similarly, I’m not a socialist in the same way Pol Pot was a socialist.

    American fascists have intentionally stripped the word “conservative” of meaning, and if we accept their narrative we allow them to make us dumber.

    I’m not saying CDU and CSU are brilliant parties, but the fundamental idea of German conservitivism is not the idea of “conservatives” as a select group of people for which society should work. If anything this is a description of populism.